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10-30-2009, 09:14 PM
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Price a used 2SS/RS
I test drove a used 2SS/RS at a dealer in town today. It was way nicer than the 1LT I drove last May!
It is a Silver car with a M6. It had 9xx miles on the clock and looked to be unmolested. The dealer has a silly price on the window that's more than MSRP for a new one. If I were to make an offer, what do folks think it would take to get it? Dealer invoice according to the Camaro Builder is around 33K (and that was assuming it had some things that I am not certain of).
BTW, the salesman said it was an ordered car that the fellow traded back in because he needed a truck. This sounds like a story I've heard before and is setting off my crap detector...
Thoughts??
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2007 Avalanche A4 Silver Birch 3LT | 2004 Suburban A4 Summit White Z71
2006 Honda Civic Graphite EX 4-door, M5 | 1994 Toyota Hilux Extra Cab M5 4x4
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10-30-2009, 10:49 PM
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Most used ones in these parts are also priced over MSRP, usually at least $38k. They've been for sale for a while, so people aren't buying, however I think folks are just being greedy. 
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10-31-2009, 07:05 AM
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This one was 38,950 +/-. I didn't pay full attention because when I saw 38, I chuckled inside. I think I may keep to my wait-it-out approach. I don't really "need" another car right now.
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"Art, like morality, consists in drawing the line somewhere.", G.K. Chesterton
1997 Z/28 A4 Convertible, 30th Anniversary Edition "Jennifer" - for sunny days
1995 Z/28 M6 Polo Green, T-tops "Kermit" - Mudbone, Jr's
2007 Avalanche A4 Silver Birch 3LT | 2004 Suburban A4 Summit White Z71
2006 Honda Civic Graphite EX 4-door, M5 | 1994 Toyota Hilux Extra Cab M5 4x4
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10-31-2009, 10:52 AM
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Here in Mid-Michigan they are starting to finally sit on lots. LS,LT,1SS,2SS and all available for supplier price plus another 500 off if you pass on the 60 day thing. And if you can get it GM pricing. I have had 3 dealers that I left my name at call me and offer me a car below MSRP.
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11-01-2009, 10:40 AM
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Yea, in Michigan you can get a new one for $1,000 under MSRP. But in all seriousness, sometimes you have to twist the arm of the salesman so they can wake up and relize they're being a bit ridiculous.
Don't forget Under 3k miles, is the break in period. 9XX miles sounds like a driver who beat it, then left it.
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11-02-2009, 07:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mudbone
This one was 38,950 +/-. I didn't pay full attention because when I saw 38, I chuckled inside. I think I may keep to my wait-it-out approach. I don't really "need" another car right now.
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Do you know the VIN? You could look it up at http://camaro.spasticsquirrel.com They have stopped posting MSRP's but if it was early enough you will have the exact price of that car. I know you don't "need" another car, but you want one. Because it is not just a car, it's a Camaro! Heck, if it's exactly what you want it, offer $6k or so under MSRP and see what happens. But if it's not exacly what you are looking for you should probably wait to avoid any regrets later. Besides, with winter weather aproaching are you really going to be able to enjoy it prior to the spring?
I didn't meen to give you advise when I started. I just wanted to make sure you knew where you might be able to get more info. Sorry 
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11-02-2009, 09:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CamaroBob
Do you know the VIN? You could look it up at http://camaro.spasticsquirrel.com ... I didn't mean to give you advise when I started. I just wanted to make sure you knew where you might be able to get more info. Sorry |
I'll stop by tomorrow and jot down the VIN. Do NOT apologize for the friendly advice. I appreciate your thinking...
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"Art, like morality, consists in drawing the line somewhere.", G.K. Chesterton
1997 Z/28 A4 Convertible, 30th Anniversary Edition "Jennifer" - for sunny days
1995 Z/28 M6 Polo Green, T-tops "Kermit" - Mudbone, Jr's
2007 Avalanche A4 Silver Birch 3LT | 2004 Suburban A4 Summit White Z71
2006 Honda Civic Graphite EX 4-door, M5 | 1994 Toyota Hilux Extra Cab M5 4x4
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11-03-2009, 11:50 AM
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I will sell you one at under sticker. Just tell me what you are looking for! I have 28 Camaro's in stock.
John Trotto
Buff Whelan Chevrolet
586-274-0310
jtrotto@buffwhelan.com
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11-03-2009, 01:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jtrott
I will sell you one at under sticker. Just tell me what you are looking for! I have 28 Camaros in stock.
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John,
Thanks for the offer. I'm not ready to buy new just yet. I *think* I want an SS, but I may choose an LT M6 (after I get a chance to drive one). I suppose a trip to Michigan to pick it up could be fun, though 
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"Art, like morality, consists in drawing the line somewhere.", G.K. Chesterton
1997 Z/28 A4 Convertible, 30th Anniversary Edition "Jennifer" - for sunny days
1995 Z/28 M6 Polo Green, T-tops "Kermit" - Mudbone, Jr's
2007 Avalanche A4 Silver Birch 3LT | 2004 Suburban A4 Summit White Z71
2006 Honda Civic Graphite EX 4-door, M5 | 1994 Toyota Hilux Extra Cab M5 4x4
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11-03-2009, 02:01 PM
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The dealership near me has had five new SS's out front for a couple weeks.
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1987 Buick Grand National - best ET 13.66, best MPH 101.5, best 60' 2.08 - 253hp/334tq - 93 chip, RJC, meth, Hooker catback, 160 t-stat, shift kit, no-hop bars
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11-03-2009, 02:40 PM
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What's up with Michigan and all the "surplus" Camaros?
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"Art, like morality, consists in drawing the line somewhere.", G.K. Chesterton
1997 Z/28 A4 Convertible, 30th Anniversary Edition "Jennifer" - for sunny days
1995 Z/28 M6 Polo Green, T-tops "Kermit" - Mudbone, Jr's
2007 Avalanche A4 Silver Birch 3LT | 2004 Suburban A4 Summit White Z71
2006 Honda Civic Graphite EX 4-door, M5 | 1994 Toyota Hilux Extra Cab M5 4x4
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11-03-2009, 03:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mudbone
What's up with Michigan and all the "surplus" Camaros?
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Winter is coming (RWD + low ground clearance + heavy snow =  ), and a lot of people around here don't have jobs.
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2002 NBM Camaro Z28 M6 - best ET 13.21, best MPH 108.9, best 60' 2.14 - 325hp/343tq - Lid, Corsa, SixSpeedsInc T56, Pro 5.0 w/ short stick, 17x9 wheels
1987 Buick Grand National - best ET 13.66, best MPH 101.5, best 60' 2.08 - 253hp/334tq - 93 chip, RJC, meth, Hooker catback, 160 t-stat, shift kit, no-hop bars
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11-03-2009, 03:24 PM
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I'm afraid I think your second reason may be the strongest.
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"Art, like morality, consists in drawing the line somewhere.", G.K. Chesterton
1997 Z/28 A4 Convertible, 30th Anniversary Edition "Jennifer" - for sunny days
1995 Z/28 M6 Polo Green, T-tops "Kermit" - Mudbone, Jr's
2007 Avalanche A4 Silver Birch 3LT | 2004 Suburban A4 Summit White Z71
2006 Honda Civic Graphite EX 4-door, M5 | 1994 Toyota Hilux Extra Cab M5 4x4
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11-03-2009, 03:38 PM
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Also your allocation is based off your total sales. Michigan dealerships do a larger volume of vehicles due to the fact of having GM here. So we earn more vehicles. I agree that the economy has had a effect on the amount in stock but we are selling a large amount of these out of the state all over the country.
John Trotto
Buff Whelan Chevrolet
586-274-0310
jtrotto@buffwhelan.com
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