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Old 09-30-2010 | 12:10 PM
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$50 grand* for a Camaro. Is that a good thing?

* Estimated Z/28 price.


EDIT: Just to alleviate any confusion which may exist in my question, the issue is that Camaro is moving up the demographic ladder quickly. As the price of it's performance versions goes up, it starts to move away from it's traditional buyer base.

The question is: "IS THAT A GOOD THING?"

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Old 09-30-2010 | 12:15 PM
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How much is the GT500?
Old 09-30-2010 | 12:15 PM
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How much is the GT500?
Where is the option of staying withing the Gt500 price range.
Old 09-30-2010 | 12:23 PM
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I'd have to be making a lot more money than I am right now to ever think about paying $50k for ANY car. So for me, it is sort of academic.

But given the price of its most obvious competitor, it makes sense.

I typically don't buy new, though, so maybe 5-6 years down the road...

(Actually, if I were to get a 5th gen Camaro, it would likely be a used SS droptop in 4 or 5 years.)
Old 09-30-2010 | 12:23 PM
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I expect the car to be in the GT500 price range.
Old 09-30-2010 | 12:26 PM
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This car is gonna be the same or a little more than a GT500 so yes it will be $50k if you are lucky. Of course the usual collectors will ****** up all of them with high premiums over msrp so the avg joe will most likely never own one unless they build 30k of them or more which I doubt because of the gas guzzler tax. The more important question should be how many are they gonna produce the first year? That is what's gonna dictate the price more than anything.
Old 09-30-2010 | 12:28 PM
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GT500 MSRP starts at $48,645 and a fully optioned one MSRP's for $60,537.
Old 09-30-2010 | 12:58 PM
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How about I change the title from "is that a good thing" to "is that reasonable" or at the very least, "is that a good value"? That is wording it a bit more fairly and people don't get the wrong idea of what kind of response to give.

To most people, spending $50,000 is not a good thing. A good value, is another story entirely. That is what you meant, right?
Old 09-30-2010 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonD
How about I change the title from "is that a good thing" to "is that reasonable" or at the very least, "is that a good value"? That is wording it a bit more fairly and people don't get the wrong idea of what kind of response to give.

To most people, spending $50,000 is not a good thing. A good value, is another story entirely. That is what you meant, right?
Actually Jason, I'm really hunting for some deeper meaning than that. That is, where is the Camaro as a "brand" going? Obviously it's going up the demographic ladder - both financially and age wise. Is that a good thing? Personally, I don't know.

Camaros have never necessarily been cheap, but they were always attainable. Are we moving away from that? Is that a good thing? How does that affect the brand?
Old 09-30-2010 | 01:26 PM
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I think the presence of the Z28 as a halo car will be good for the brand overall, but I think GM needs to be careful to keep a base model in the low 20's, and not to forget the original concept that made Camaro successful: affordable performance.
Old 09-30-2010 | 02:18 PM
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I guess I don't see how anyone will say spending 50k is a good thing. There's no one that will say "I'll spend 10k, but it is better that I spend 50k". There's no question people want to spend as little as possible on anything...a car or otherwise. Of course, everyone will say NO without really thinking about it. Most will vote in the poll without even reading what you are trying to convey.
Old 09-30-2010 | 02:39 PM
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A Camaro is attainable... you gotta keep in mind that there are many version of this car.

V6 very attainable.
SS for the everyday enthusiast and for today standards a decent deal.
Z28 more of a halo car for the Camaro brand that will sell and it will probably sell each and everyone of them. Technology used here trickles down to the other versions sooner or later.
ZL1 i wish... just because...

I think it's good for the brand to push the boundaries while keeping the base models... the main objective is to get people to look at Camaro.. and then make a choice of what version they can afford.

At least that's how I see it.. and I might be totally wrong.

So to answer your question.... yes. I wish it was cheaper... but who doesn't.
Old 09-30-2010 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonD
I guess I don't see how anyone will say spending 50k is a good thing. .
I can see someone arguing that such a price point will bring Camaro upscale, and make more expensive components available to it. So that person may feel that it's a good thing.
Old 09-30-2010 | 02:46 PM
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Hard to say that I would spend $xxxxx when I dont know how it performs, or what it looks like yet.
Old 09-30-2010 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeRobb
I think the presence of the Z28 as a halo car will be good for the brand overall, but I think GM needs to be careful to keep a base model in the low 20's, and not to forget the original concept that made Camaro successful: affordable performance.
I'm all for the concept of a halo car. I'd rather see a halo in the same vein as the Z06 though, that is as not a limited production item for collectors. Yes, Z06 has got the better stuff, and it costs more, but it's volume is only limited by the number of buyers who want it. I don't know what it's current volume is, but there was a time when Z06 sales accounted for 25% of all Corvette sales.

But I also agree, that if Camaro (and Mustang for that matter) gets too far afield from it's original concept, i.e., affordable performance, we may have a problem.

A question for all of us who were at the concept's unveiling in Detroit, in '06, (or anyone else for that matter):

Had GM told us that a V8 5th gen would cost $31,000 to $50,000 plus, would we have been shocked?



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