2010 Z-28 to have Eaton supercharger and 575-600 HP
#1
2010 Z-28 to have Eaton supercharger and 575-600 HP
Just read in Super Chevy or Chevy High Perf. this month that the new Z-28 will get an Eaton supercharger and will have 575-600 HP! The SS will be the base V-8 (which we've known for some time) and will have 430-450 I believe. These are some awesome numbers for a production car that will sell for under $50K. Sorry if this is old news.
#2
Welcome aboard .
I think the mag's maybe got a little "over-excited" on power ratings ...
... yes, it sounds like the SS will be the "base" V8, and the Z28 will be the "top" model.
However, I think the power for the SS will be just shy of the Corvette's 430 HP LS3 (the SS will probably be ~425 HP). And I think they're aiming for somewhere around the ~550 HP mark for the Z28 (although who knows ... they were aiming for at least 600 HP for the ZR1, and ended up with 638 HP! ).
I'd hate to say those #'s are "official", but if I were a betting man ...................
I think the mag's maybe got a little "over-excited" on power ratings ...
... yes, it sounds like the SS will be the "base" V8, and the Z28 will be the "top" model.
However, I think the power for the SS will be just shy of the Corvette's 430 HP LS3 (the SS will probably be ~425 HP). And I think they're aiming for somewhere around the ~550 HP mark for the Z28 (although who knows ... they were aiming for at least 600 HP for the ZR1, and ended up with 638 HP! ).
I'd hate to say those #'s are "official", but if I were a betting man ...................
#3
Well Chevy is expected to out power the Mustangs V6 and standard V8 so I would expect numbers as good or better than the Ford Dealer avaiable Shelby.
I would be shocked if the Z is less than 550 Hp. I am sure Higher HP models will also be made available by GMMG and other supplyers ROUSH, Saleen, Calaway, Lingenfelter Etc.
The Camaro will not be second the the Mustang in perfromance as that was made clear to us from the start.
Just be ready as none of the top HP cars are going to be cheap as noted with the Challanger and Mustang.
I would be shocked if the Z is less than 550 Hp. I am sure Higher HP models will also be made available by GMMG and other supplyers ROUSH, Saleen, Calaway, Lingenfelter Etc.
The Camaro will not be second the the Mustang in perfromance as that was made clear to us from the start.
Just be ready as none of the top HP cars are going to be cheap as noted with the Challanger and Mustang.
#4
I wouldn't want the Z/28 to have that much HP. Because once it gets to that point the car is more rare than the GT500 and probably more expensive too.
I don't want the Z/28 to be like the ZR1 but more of the Z06 for the Camaro.
I don't want the Z/28 to be like the ZR1 but more of the Z06 for the Camaro.
#5
[quote=Capn Pete;5444728... yes, it sounds like the SS will be the "base" V8, and the Z28 will be the "top" model.
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This dead horse just keeps twitching.
Chevy has said nothing directly about this, only that the decision has been made and they're not telling yet.
SS was top model over Z28 in all previous generations of Camaro, why would Chevy change that now?
SS is the top version of all other models Chevy ever applies/applied it to: Impala, Cobalt, Monte Carlo, etc. etc..
Some magazine's uninformed speculation and some people's wishful thinking is not going to change the facts. History and tradition say SS will be top. The 5th gen. is heavy on tradition. Smart money is on SS.
We'll know in a few months anyway so why keep kicking the corpse?
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This dead horse just keeps twitching.
Chevy has said nothing directly about this, only that the decision has been made and they're not telling yet.
SS was top model over Z28 in all previous generations of Camaro, why would Chevy change that now?
SS is the top version of all other models Chevy ever applies/applied it to: Impala, Cobalt, Monte Carlo, etc. etc..
Some magazine's uninformed speculation and some people's wishful thinking is not going to change the facts. History and tradition say SS will be top. The 5th gen. is heavy on tradition. Smart money is on SS.
We'll know in a few months anyway so why keep kicking the corpse?
#6
Originally Posted by dacook
Some magazine's uninformed speculation and some people's wishful thinking is not going to change the facts. History and tradition say SS will be top. The 5th gen. is heavy on tradition. Smart money is on SS.
We'll know in a few months anyway so why keep kicking the corpse?
We'll know in a few months anyway so why keep kicking the corpse?
"Smart" money says SS is top? And what if I bet you $100 that you're wrong? Shall I provide you my PayPal information, to which you may deposit said $100? Put your money where your mouth is.
How's that for kicking a dead horse?
#7
I don't want a supercharged Z/28! Gimme the base motor plus a few ponies. Lighten the thing up with some fiberglass bits like hood. take off all fancy stylish ground effects type crap put on a front air dam. Maybe add some underbody cladding stuff basically go to town on increasing aero efficiency. Add some nice brakes. And a real nicely tuned suspension with some lightweight wheels. And take out the fancier of the electronic gizmos. Add harnesses and some lightweight racing seat. Basically it should be the GT3 of the Camaros.
#8
Because they can? Because (half of) the enthusiasts asked for it?
You're accusing me of "wishful thinking"? And you're basing YOUR speculation on a little bit of history and even more "wishful thinking"?
"Smart" money says SS is top? And what if I bet you $100 that you're wrong? Shall I provide you my PayPal information, to which you may deposit said $100? Put your money where your mouth is.
How's that for kicking a dead horse?
You're accusing me of "wishful thinking"? And you're basing YOUR speculation on a little bit of history and even more "wishful thinking"?
"Smart" money says SS is top? And what if I bet you $100 that you're wrong? Shall I provide you my PayPal information, to which you may deposit said $100? Put your money where your mouth is.
How's that for kicking a dead horse?
But:
1) Scott specifically said on this issue that the decision was not made based on polls or numbers of people expressing preference.
2) At least my speculation is based on something (history) besides wishful thinking.
3) Maybe a little bet, or possibly a pool if others want to get involved, could add a little spice to the dead horse's corpse? I may be up for it if you can think of a safe way it could be accomplished. I can afford $100 if you can.
#9
Probably!!
But a decision HAS been made, nonetheless .
There is history of the Z28 being the (only) "top" car of an entire generation, and ~2/3 - 3/4 of two other generations, so don't say there's no history for the Z28. Besides, maybe I'm not just "speculating" .
It's ok, I don't want your money ... you'll need it to put towards your ~425 HP SS, or ~550 HP Z28, or whatever you decide to buy .
Originally Posted by dacook
But:
1) Scott specifically said on this issue that the decision was not made based on polls or numbers of people expressing preference.
1) Scott specifically said on this issue that the decision was not made based on polls or numbers of people expressing preference.
Originally Posted by dacook
2) At least my speculation is based on something (history) besides wishful thinking.
Originally Posted by dacook
3) Maybe a little bet, or possibly a pool if others want to get involved, could add a little spice to the dead horse's corpse? I may be up for it if you can think of a safe way it could be accomplished. I can afford $100 if you can.
#10
Welcome to the club who wishes the "Z/28" would make a come-back . But the new Z28 won't even come CLOSE to the original formula, so don't waste your time hoping. Time to embrace the new heavy-weight, 550 HP Camaro
#11
And therein lies my rub with Z28 being the supercharged boulevard beater. Whether or not you think the L78 396 or the DZ 302 was the "uber" Camaro, this heavy weight, straightline terror (and I admit, the idea is growing on me) is about as far from the heritage of the Z as it can get. Oh well, gonna be fun deciding between the Challenger SRT and the Z28
#12
This dead horse just keeps twitching.
Chevy has said nothing directly about this, only that the decision has been made and they're not telling yet.
SS was top model over Z28 in all previous generations of Camaro, why would Chevy change that now?
SS is the top version of all other models Chevy ever applies/applied it to: Impala, Cobalt, Monte Carlo, etc. etc..
Some magazine's uninformed speculation and some people's wishful thinking is not going to change the facts. History and tradition say SS will be top. The 5th gen. is heavy on tradition. Smart money is on SS.
We'll know in a few months anyway so why keep kicking the corpse?
Chevy has said nothing directly about this, only that the decision has been made and they're not telling yet.
SS was top model over Z28 in all previous generations of Camaro, why would Chevy change that now?
SS is the top version of all other models Chevy ever applies/applied it to: Impala, Cobalt, Monte Carlo, etc. etc..
Some magazine's uninformed speculation and some people's wishful thinking is not going to change the facts. History and tradition say SS will be top. The 5th gen. is heavy on tradition. Smart money is on SS.
We'll know in a few months anyway so why keep kicking the corpse?
#13
Unless I'm misremembering, the Z28 was only top dog when there was no SS. Whenever an SS was in the lineup it was top over the Z28.
And if you have inside information then a bet would not be fair.
And if so you should share it.
#15
Not only do I NOT doubt that, I would be highly surprised if the SS isn't plain FASTER than the SRT. I am a gear head, but I have to admit, most of the time I will just be cruising, and to me the Challenger is a beautiful car.