nearly 3900 lbs is bad for the V-8 version....and the Z/28 will undoubtedly be over 4000, unless it gets the kind of attention that the Z06 got, instead of like what it's main competitor, the GT500 did.

However...I'm still somewhat excited for the V-6. How many years till they take the route that Ford is supposed to be going and offer us a turbo-6 with V-8 power? 300 horsepower is great.....but at ~3750lbs, it'll be slower than all of it's competitors. And from what they've said about pricing, the V-6 is going to be priced with the Mustang, maybe a LITTLE under....figure 26k for the V-6 with an RS package?

The complete package looks very very tempting. I LOVE the interior...I thought I would dislike it. The weight is right where I figured it would be. The handling will undoubtedly be better FEELING than a 4th gen, who's chassis had E.D.---but the actual limits will likely be lower on the stock tires they have listed, due to weight, and low speed maneuvers will be a little more ponderous than I like.

Here's what I want: An LT/RS, as long as the RS package comes with it's own suspension settings. I don't want a soft suspension even though I want the V-6. And then I want to give that engine a tune, some new piping on the intake and exhaust, some of those new "pulse plugs" (my friend installed some in his 4th gen and dynoed it for a 9hp improvement!), and see if I can't hit 330hp.

One thing I very much like is the announced fuel economy. My current car gets 27.5mpg (by my own measure) in town, and 27mpg on the highway. This new camaro is rated at 26 on the highway, which means I'll probably get 29 or so out of it. Very acceptable. The in-city mileage no doubt sucks, due to weight, which is why they haven't put it on any of the spec sheets they've released, but I don't really do all that much in-town driving.

 

Not much can be done about it now. The Camaro seems to have about 150lbs of airbags in it. Looks like NASA'a Mars landers inside. The fire dept. will need machete just to get to the passengers after an accident, although I bet they will be untouched.

This car may surprise some people but I doubt it will be a corner carver. Maybe the V6 RS will be the cone cutter. I thought about this when GM decided to test so many cars at the Ring. There is a difference in a powerful and balanced car on a long road course as opposed to a parking lot where being agile and nimble win.

 

Too freaking FAT. Just hope it drive down camaro prices a bit and i can get myself a 1st or 4th gen.

 

If Ford comes out with a 3450lb 400hp Mustang GT as is rumored, I know what I'll be trading my Bullitt in for.

 

A 17 pound reduction is good.

I wonder how much more they could lose if they went to 17" wheels on the SS?

I'm a little disappointed with standard 20s. The 16s on my '02 are just fine, and vulnerable enough to road hazards, curbs, etc.

 

Those wheel wells are just way too big for 17's. The tire would be too tall and look funny.

 

What are people going to mount snow tires on if they buy the SS? I hope its a standard bolt pattern so we can put 17"s on for the winter.

 

Even though the car will handle good, you can't tell me you won't still feel the weight. the 4th gen felt heavy, and it was 400 pounds lighter. i really don't get how it can be so heavy, or how GM can put out a "sports" car at this time weighing that much.

 

The 400hp I can believe. That 3450lb number I'll wait till Ford actually does it before I give em kudos. I have a hard time believing they're gonna keep it that light.

 

-3900 lbs for the A6 SS, not good and the fact that the auto gets the l99 and not the ls3 plus all that just to get 23mpg? Weight is the biggest challenge that kills mpg,
might as well just call it an ls2 GT0.
OH and 13s in the quarter for $35000?

I'll be looking for c6 ls3 vette A6,

pat

 

Ugh.

I wanna be positive, but the car is seriously obese.

 

The L99 is the LS3 with AFM added. I've seen rumors to the effect that AFM hardware adds mass to the valvetrain. Maybe that's why the rev limit and HP are lower?

 

3860 is great. With 422hp it should be a solid 12 second car if it doesn't have the same axle hop problem as the GTO did.

Yeah I don't believe the weight # either. The current car is 3540-3590 for a manual depending on options. Just putting a DOHC mod motor and a 6 speed Tremec in it will bring it up to 3700 easy. Then what if they add bigger brakes, 20" wheels and an IRS on top of that to keep up with the competition? It will be a pig just like everything else unless they switch platforms and make it 3/4 of the size it is now.

 

They are both rated at 5000RPM. The issue is more valve lift limits with AFM I think.

 

Here's some perspective for ya:

My 408 iron block, caged, 12 bolt, subframe and strut tower braced, T-top, full option 2001 SS weighs less.

Like I said, I want to be positive, but the weight is disappointing.

I may get over it though...

As far as it being a 12 second car, it's gonna be tight. 345hp F4 M6 SS's could touch high 12's on a very good day with a very good driver on a very good run.

This car has roughly 75hp more, but it's an IRS (usually "ungood" for launching hard...) and clocks in 400 lbs. or more heavier.