2010 - 2015 Camaro News, Sightings, Pictures, and Multimedia All 2010 - 2011 - 2012 - 2013 - 2014 - 2015 Camaro news, photos, and videos

5 MPH bumper requirements

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-18-2005 | 04:26 AM
  #1  
teal98's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 3,132
From: Santa Clara, CA
5 MPH bumper requirements

Does anyone know what the current bumper requirements are? I could have sworn that my 1998 and 2002 Camaros had a little sticker saying that they were designed to survive a 2.5mph impact. Is my memory faulty?

I'm wondering because of a side comment by RP in the SS thread, saying that a clinic vehicle had bumpers that wouldn't take a 5 mph impact.

Has there been a change in law or policy within GM such that 5 mph bumpers are now a requirement?
Old 12-18-2005 | 07:44 AM
  #2  
WERM's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 1999
Posts: 1,873
From: South Jersey
Re: 5 MPH bumper requirements

They are still a requirement in Canada, I think.
Old 12-18-2005 | 08:09 AM
  #3  
sselie's Avatar
Disciple
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 270
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada (20 min. down the road from the "Shwa"!)
Re: 5 MPH bumper requirements

Originally Posted by WERM
They are still a requirement in Canada, I think.
Yup, and they are based on a 8 km/hr (5 mph) standard with a couple of differences:
Under the Canadian bumper standard, the vehicle is impacted into a fixed-collision barrier that is perpendicular to its line of travel while the vehicle is traveling longitudinally forward at 8 km/h (5 mph) and longitudinally backward at 8 km/h (5 mph), with its engine operating at idle speed. Every vehicle is impacted twice on the front and rear surfaces and once on each front and rear corner with the impact line at any height between 500mm (20 inches) and 400mm (16 inches). While the impact speed in the Canadian standard is higher than that in the U.S. standard, the Canadian standard has less stringent protective criteria. Specifically, the protective criteria for the Canadian standard requires that the vehicle does not touch the test device, except on the impact ridge with a force that exceeds 2000 lbs. on the combined surface of the test device.
... and I believe this is one of the major reasons why the GTO is not available in Canada.
Full document can be found at
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/proble...per/Index.html

Best regardSS,

Elie
Old 12-18-2005 | 11:08 AM
  #4  
NewbieWar's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,370
From: Germany
Re: 5 MPH bumper requirements

lol my 94 firebird got smacked around at 20 mph... no dent, just a little rubbed off paint... messed up the ford bumper tho!

also my ex-gf hit a car at 3 mph or so... no damage to either car...
Old 12-18-2005 | 02:08 PM
  #5  
Capn Pete's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,308
From: Oshawa - Home of the 5th-gen
Re: 5 MPH bumper requirements

Originally Posted by sselie
Yup, and they are based on a 8 km/hr (5 mph) standard with a couple of differences:

... and I believe this is one of the major reasons why the GTO is not available in Canada.
Full document can be found at
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/proble...per/Index.html

Best regardSS,

Elie
That's my understanding why there's no GTO up here as well.

Funny, 'cause a lot of people say "GTO's are better built than F-bodies" ... hmmm? At least F-bodies could stand a 5 mph hit.
Old 12-18-2005 | 02:50 PM
  #6  
graham's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 1999
Posts: 2,887
From: northeast Miss.
Re: 5 MPH bumper requirements

You have to take the good with the bad.
Old 12-18-2005 | 09:52 PM
  #7  
zlightning's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 235
From: Kansas City, Missouri, United States
Re: 5 MPH bumper requirements

Bumpers are made to absorb shock so they will crunch although a 5mph hit shouldn't do damage in my mind.
Old 12-19-2005 | 02:30 AM
  #8  
teal98's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 3,132
From: Santa Clara, CA
Re: 5 MPH bumper requirements

Originally Posted by zlightning
Bumpers are made to absorb shock so they will crunch although a 5mph hit shouldn't do damage in my mind.
That's the way it was in the 70s and early 80s, but making bumpers that strong does add a fair bit of weight to the ends of the car, not to mention being somewhat difficult to fit in styling-wise. For a family sedan, maybe a 5mph bumper is good, but I'd rather not have them in a sports car (give me back the 50 lbs or whatever). Does the Canadian rule allow the bumper to suffer some damage in a 5mph impact?
Old 12-19-2005 | 09:16 AM
  #9  
SharpShooter_SS's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 766
From: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Re: 5 MPH bumper requirements

True, it is indeed the 5 mph bumper rule that keeps the GTO out of Canada. In the early 70s the US also implemented the 5mph guideline - up from 2.5 - as well but somewhere in the intervening years relaxed it back to 2.5mph whereas Canada continued on with the 5mph guideline. Australia also apparently adheres to the 2.5 mph standards.

The GTO is disqualifed because of the bumpers and the fact that there is no conversion package available to bring the car into accordance with Canadian standards.

If anyone is interested or curious, here is a link to the list of vehicles allowed and not allowed into Canada from the US and what has to be done to make vehicles "legal" for Canadian streets.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
2QUIK6
Cars For Sale
10
09-17-2016 03:31 PM
RUENUF
Cars For Sale
6
03-13-2016 04:37 PM
92_RS_305
Cars For Sale
1
09-08-2015 08:47 PM
LazyLemming
Drivetrain
3
08-29-2015 08:36 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:33 AM.