Onstar is only limited to what it connected to . If it were ever hacked , by limitations in the PCM all they could really do is unlock the doors . As far as the diagnosics are concerned , the systems they monitor for those vehicle reports are inputs only . Onstar is not integrated in way you would need to be with the pcm and BCM to just go in and start shutting things down or controlling them , like they can the door locks .

 

So you are one of the folks that hates new technology? Think GM should bring back the carburetor?

So I guess it sucks that you can have ls1's running 9's making ridiculous HP on a stock PCM that has been tuned with EFIlive or Hptuners. Oh yea, it starts up and drives real nice too. Yup, OBDII sucks, the sky is falling. What will we do?

 

this all is a bunch of bs if obdIII is on the new camaro i would buy a base line piece of crap sorry excuse for a motor v6 camaro take out the motor strip the harness and put in a carburated 400 cu in 600 hp old school motor (like i did with my 1993 base model) smoke any one else on the road and save a crap load on my insurance sounds good to me lets see them try to lock me out then

 

Correct, it is POSSIBLE but right now they cant. Not saying that in the future that cars could do this. With electronic controls taking over mechanical controls, it would be a heck of a lot easier.

 

have u seen what technology can do today? they mounted 2 cameras on top of a police cruiser and then the car drives up and down the streets and they can read 1500 plates an hour doing this and tell if you have a warrant and unpaid parking tickets.


a computer could easily monitor it and just bring it to authorities attention when the computer would red tag ya and bring it up in front of a person siting in front of a computer.

 

Yes I have, and yes you are correct that it could be easily done. However, this all comes at a price. Someone is going to have to pay for it. If the government is doing the collecting and processing its going to cost even more. (They don't call them buracracies for nothing.)

Plausible? Yes. Practical? No.

 

That someone is you and me..the taxpayers. What ever method 'They' decide to use, be it fuel taxes, new auto sales taxes, fines and fees, or just general income taxes. They have the money, they are spending it. In the long run, they see a money generating machine.

 

Actually it doesn't work that way. I know this because I work for a government agency and one of my jobs as a project manager is to get government grants to fund my projects. Yes, taxes do get used for government projects. However most of the money we get comes from bonds, which are voted on by the public. Futhermore, policing our roads and vehicles is traditionally and typically done by the states. The federal gov't doesn't want the excess burden or overhead. If left up to the states it would take years to implement and most likely in most states would require a ballot measure be passed, first to make it a law, and a second measure to fund such a program. The chances of this ever coming to fruition are slim and none... unless the Dept. of Homeland Security can scare everyone into believing that it would benefit the safety of the American people. (The buzz-word in gov't today is "security". If you want your project to get funding quickly, just say it's a "security" project and watch it flow in.) Fortunately, most gov't grants run out before we ever get a chance to spend the money. Sometimes "red-tape" can be a beautiful thing, but most of the time its a pain in the rear.

Besides, trust me when I say, there are enough people in gov't that think this is a bonehead idea and will stop at nothing to prevent this from ever happening. (At least in my lifetime.)

 

I hate all the "doom and gloom" on this so-called issue. It just doesn't make sense to me. Any sort of monitoring - either realtime or delayed, either to law enforcement or to insurance companies - will take a lot of people and a lot of money. Who's going to pay for it? Law enforcement can't. GM won't. And if any company tries to, they will take on a huge amount of bad press.....and not just from enthusiasts (even people who drive minivans don't want to get caught speeding).

For any company (even one outside of the automakers) it's about making money and I don't see any profit potential for anyone. The insurance companies would have to be able to prove that their premiums would drop with continuous monitoring and there's no way they're going to do that - premiums (and therefore income) drop and overhead goes way up and all for a service that a significant number of people (if not a clear majority) don't want. Sounds like a lose-lose to me.

 

I've never heard about any of this garbage. I'm still gonna buy a 2010 camaro, but I'm also gonna be sure to keep at least one obd-II or earlier car in my fleet for the rest of my life.

I'm all for the "green" movement, but this program is ridiculous. Why not use those tax dollars to setup curbside recylcling instead? I haven't lived in a city with curside recylcing in 10 years. Why not use our tax dollars to setup a program that will help save the environment, instead of giving cops yet another reason to **** with me?

 

Let's go back to Carbs!