I think you guys won't care as much if the Corvette SS comes out with 700hp or something like that.

I'm fine with it, as long as they make it deserve the name. A Corvette Super Sport had darn well better be a pretty special car.

Of course, I'd much rather they call it a Stingray, Blue Devil, ZR1, etc.

 

While I would say it's now more likely than not that there will be a fifth generation Camaro (it seems unlikely that Chevrolet would produce a concept named "Camaro" otherwise), I would not start saying "when" yet.

A lot can happen.

Until they actually anounce production plans I would say be "hopeful" but still guarded.

 

If Scott has his way, I belive the top dog will bear his initials; unless I have completely misread his feelings on the matter.

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PPPS- Did anyone else catch the American Muscle Car episode on Monday night featuring the SS line-up, and the commentaries by the fbodfather? It was very cool.

 

You'd be dead wrong on that issue...an entirely overused moniker as the SS is, would cheapen the Corvette brand.

What's so special about all the other SS models? You can get a NA Cobalt SS...

So with all of these more appropriate choices, why slap the SS moniker on it?

 

:blah:

 

Just in case someone is keeping score...

The first "SS" was a Corvette.

 

I don't want to get into a huge debate. And I don't care what version of the Camaro has the most power, spoliers, hood scoops or fatter tires and cooler rims. Its just that many of you seem very determined to have the Z28 as the most expensive or "top dog" Camaro. That can only mean that you must realize that the Z28 hasn't been on top in years the SS was offered. (Yes it was available in 96 and 97 from SLP affiliated dealers. I know because I wanted to order one in 97 and the dealer wasn't connected to SLP so I got the Z28)
And when comparing the 1st gen Camaro's like the 63-67 Vettes or 68-72 Chevelle's when they talk of top dog its not the small blocks its the big blocks. Camaro SS 396, Vette 427/454, Chevelle 454. Not counting limited editions, ZL1, L88, COPO or any of that special stuff the average owner didn't get. The Z/28 is great and its an awsome car. I think if GM didn't need to to meet racing specs on engine size it would've had the 396. But it didn't and it wasn't the fastest. If you think that two guys on the street in 69 one with a Z/28 and one with a SS 396 who do you think will win... seriously. However you rate the hp in 69 the SS with a 396 will have more!

 

Also on one other point. May I remind everyone that GM is losing $2 mil per day every day. So to say that the Camaro is going to produced and is a sure thing is really being optamistic. I don't want to rain on any parades but I just want people to know this isn't as easy as Lutz and Wagoner saying hey lets do it. For those who have read "All Corvettes are Red" these times are very similar to the late 80's early 90's when the C5 was pushed back and delayed over and over. GM is hemerrhaging in red ink and with out rebates and 0% financing there are predictions things will get worse before they can get better. So IF is still a question. There are some big decisions on the horizon, bigger than a sporty 2 + 2 coupe with sales projections at 100k in a great year!

 

I know alot of us tend to remember cars of that time being real bad boys and faster that they really were. Being one on here that owned both of them and someone that in 69 bought a Z/28 full package with cross-ram twin four with factory headers I know how fast they were but todays cars are better in every way so to long ago to talk about.

 

Not entirely. The base 396 had 325 hp, the Dz302 was rated at 290. That rating was a joke. I have heard anywhere from mid 300's up to mid 400's for the 302 with the available cam, headers and cross ram quads installed as dealer options.

Now, if you are talking about the Hi-Po L78 (which was rated at 275 in the Camaro, but interestingly enough 425 in the 1965 'vette) then I believe the SS 396-L78 was the favorite in the 1/4.

 

I'm not as much of a Corvette guy, as I am a Camaro guy...so I won't lose any sleep over it either way. But I believe calling the so called 'Blue Devil' Corvette......Corvette SS will diminish the Corvette brand. Just my opinion on that.

 

The Z28 came after the SS and got the best of everything, things the SS never got. It was a more expensive, more exclusive car, with alot more history. It actually means something. That car, people, deserves the top spot. If it doesn't, it will once again be a wrong to the Camaro.

The Corvette should also never get an SS name. The whole idea behind SS was to put a little "Corvette sportyness" (whatever that means) in regular (note that word) cars and has always been a basic appearance option with few impressive models that got real go fast stuff.

 

I do remember hearing that it won't be corvette "SS" but Corvette Super Sport. Lets not forget that Corvette is still part of Chevy which in recent years has used SS as the top dog not whichever "Z" the car has had...

 

Let me emphasize that I'm not saying they should, or even that I want them to. I'm saying they might.

I don't think that a Corvette SS would cheapen the brand. I think Corvette has too much brand recognition and respect for it to be pulled down. In fact, I think it would pull up the other SS models.

So Doug, are you against Chevy using SS for a Camaro model? Would it cheapen the brand?

 

Have you been paying attention?
THE FIRST SS WAS A CORVETTE.


The first idea behind SS, way back in Zora's day, was to build a "Super" Sports car.

"Few impressive models"...

Yeah...

Like the LS6 SS Chevelles.
Or the 409 Impala SS...
Or the 1994-1996 Impala SS...
Or the F4 SS's...
Or the F1 L78 SS's...

In volume production, throughout the history of the SS nomenclature, invaribly the fastest variant of any of Chevrolet's cars wore an SS badge... with one exception - Corvette.

And all early information indicates that that is a situation that may very soon be rectified.



Here's what it comes down to:
IF Corvette launches a "Super-Vette" with an SS nomenclature on it, Z28 will not be the top model of Camaro.

IF Corvette does not, then Z28 has a good chance.

Given the fact that Z28's have been, for two generations now, the second-tier of Camaro performance, and that there is a proven recent history of the SS nomenclature being able to sell a more highly contented and profitable Camaro to a more affluent and older customer base, I wouldn't start counting chickens yet if I were in the Z28 camp.