5thgen z28 could beat all mustangs
#6
Re: 5thgen z28 could beat all mustangs
gt500 does 0-60 in 4.6 and 1/4 mile at 12.9
z51 corvette 0-60 in 4.2 1/4 mile at 12.7
camaro could probrably do 0-60 in 4.5 and 1/4 mile at 12.8
without dohc 4 valves a cylinder or a supercharger
z51 corvette 0-60 in 4.2 1/4 mile at 12.7
camaro could probrably do 0-60 in 4.5 and 1/4 mile at 12.8
without dohc 4 valves a cylinder or a supercharger
#7
Re: 5thgen z28 could beat all mustangs
I'd rather have it be faster than the Mustang, but not the Cobra, and sell more (or nearly match stang #s), than nearly any other scenario of sales/performance. But I don't think that we will have a problem being faster and stronger than the Mustang GT's.
I think I can handle reading or hearing, "yea, well the Cobra will kill that Camaro", if I can reply, "Yea, but that's just a Mustang, mine's a CAMARO ".
I think I can handle reading or hearing, "yea, well the Cobra will kill that Camaro", if I can reply, "Yea, but that's just a Mustang, mine's a CAMARO ".
#8
Re: 5thgen z28 could beat all mustangs
Originally Posted by 327camaro
gt500 does 0-60 in 4.6 and 1/4 mile at 12.9
z51 corvette 0-60 in 4.2 1/4 mile at 12.7
camaro could probrably do 0-60 in 4.5 and 1/4 mile at 12.8
z51 corvette 0-60 in 4.2 1/4 mile at 12.7
camaro could probrably do 0-60 in 4.5 and 1/4 mile at 12.8
#11
Re: 5thgen z28 could beat all mustangs
Originally Posted by 327camaro
It's just my opinion but if the 5thgen z28 has an ls2 then wouldnt that be able to beat a mustang gt500
Originally Posted by 327camaro
gt500 does 0-60 in 4.6 and 1/4 mile at 12.9
z51 corvette 0-60 in 4.2 1/4 mile at 12.7
camaro could probrably do 0-60 in 4.5 and 1/4 mile at 12.8
without dohc 4 valves a cylinder or a supercharger
z51 corvette 0-60 in 4.2 1/4 mile at 12.7
camaro could probrably do 0-60 in 4.5 and 1/4 mile at 12.8
without dohc 4 valves a cylinder or a supercharger
1. First off, Corvette is a 3200 pound 2 passenger purpose built sports car. GM did everything in it's power to take off weight. At Corvette's $42K+ price tag, GM has some pricing room to do that.
2. Mustang, like the Camaro, is going to be a budget sports coupe that's based on a sedan. There's going to be compromises with Camaro just like there was on Mustang. If you expect a 5th gen to come in weighing less than the average 3525+ pounds of the 4th gen, you better brace yourself.
3. To say a 400 horse engine in a Corvette is a barometer of how it will perform in a Camaro is like using a Ford GT to predict how 500 horses will act in a Mustang.
4. Finally, your projected times. Why does one tenth of a second difference warranted a whole new thread? Next question is how did you come up with those numbers? What rear axle ratio are you figuring on having? What transmission ratios did you base this on?
Do you believe that the GT500 isn't going to pick up additional horsepower over the next 2 years? The GT500's engine is capable of over 600 warranty certified horsepower with no internal changes.... read that as a reprogramed ECM and smaller pulley. Ford built this into the engine so they can make quick no cost power increases.
Also, your little dig about 4 cams and a supercharger is silly as well. Cobalt uses a supercharger. Cadillac uses 4 valves per. A upcoming Corvette is going to use a supercharger. Who cares, as long as it works. Don't EVEN get started on cost differences till you look up the price on a 500 horse LS7 engine.
Not flaming you, but I'm guessing this was one of those impulsive posts people make when they just sign up on a new website and want to quickly establish themselves as "part of the group" or "one of the guys" . Nothing wrong with that, but just be more realistic. Otherwise, you'll come across as being ameturish.
If the estimates came down to a few tenths, or a easy half second, or at least was something worth noting, then I can see starting a new thread. But doing this for a difference that can boil down to tire pressue, and even then is a not throughly concieved guess......
Last edited by guionM; 10-05-2006 at 11:40 PM.
#12
Re: 5thgen z28 could beat all mustangs
GT500 DOHC 4valves per cylinder supercharger at 8.5 psi
bore x stroke 3.55 x 4.15 500hp
Ls2 OHV 2valves per cylinder Bore x stroke 4.0 x 3.62 400hp
ls2 is going to rev faster and not have the lag of the supercharger
bore x stroke 3.55 x 4.15 500hp
Ls2 OHV 2valves per cylinder Bore x stroke 4.0 x 3.62 400hp
ls2 is going to rev faster and not have the lag of the supercharger
#13
Re: 5thgen z28 could beat all mustangs
Originally Posted by 327camaro
GT500 DOHC 4valves per cylinder supercharger at 8.5 psi
bore x stroke 3.55 x 4.15 500hp
Ls2 OHV 2valves per cylinder Bore x stroke 4.0 x 3.62 400hp
ls2 is going to rev faster and not have the lag of the supercharger
bore x stroke 3.55 x 4.15 500hp
Ls2 OHV 2valves per cylinder Bore x stroke 4.0 x 3.62 400hp
ls2 is going to rev faster and not have the lag of the supercharger
1. Superchargers have no lag! You are thinking turbochargers. Big difference.
2. Bore and stroke isn't the issue here. A 454 Chevy engine has manhole sized bores, and you can fit midgets in the stroke measurements. Yet the smaller LS1 puts out more horsepower.
3. As far as revving, OHC engines have a tendancy to rev faster and higher than pushrods, so again, not a well thought out position. OHC engines do however, tend to need to rev higher to get the torque an OHV engine makes down low, where it feels stronger off the line.
#15
Re: 5thgen z28 could beat all mustangs
Silly thread but what the heck. Being as we are 2 years off and comparing the HP and performance of a car that isn't out yet with ones that are and very current is fun.
If I had to gamble on the performance of the 5th Gen Camaro I'd place it stright line as like the 06 GTO and CTS-V or a few ticks faster. This car won't be light but we just hope it will have the power to compensate. Will it beat the Mustang GT? Well I think that would be certainly possible. Beat the GT500 well probably not. But will any variant of the Camaro be that expensive probably not.
One thing is for sure GM will give the Camaro plenty of power and performance.
If I had to gamble on the performance of the 5th Gen Camaro I'd place it stright line as like the 06 GTO and CTS-V or a few ticks faster. This car won't be light but we just hope it will have the power to compensate. Will it beat the Mustang GT? Well I think that would be certainly possible. Beat the GT500 well probably not. But will any variant of the Camaro be that expensive probably not.
One thing is for sure GM will give the Camaro plenty of power and performance.