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Old 12-12-2005 | 12:47 PM
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The new Mustang's interior is not my cup of tea.
Old 12-12-2005 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Als Z
While the Mustang's interior is much improved over last gens, its clearly not even near high quality. The very cheap looking corprate radio looks old already, and is getting older by teh sec. Looks even worse in the Fusion.
The "metalic" dash is one of the hardest, cheapest, and thinnest plastics I have ever tapped on in a modern car, and I do a lot of tapping.
Guages are very hard to read as well. Seats were ok, and they finaly put the shifter where you dont smash your knuckles into the center stack. The interior's saving grace is that its layed out pretty well.
but I think we can agree that it has a more upscale/refined/quality , WHATEVER you want to call it, feel than it did have. This really has nothing to do with the subject at hand however because I'm sure the Camaro will have an interior/exterior to match or surpass the Mustangs. The problem is not with the physical attributes of the car, it's the image that it will emit to potential buyers. I'd rather have GM focus on the entire potential market for this car, rather than the headbanging drag racing crowd. For the Camaro to survive it doesn't need anything dragging it down off the starting line. Yes, of course enthusiasts are hyped about it, but what about the general public, THOSE are the people that GM has to convince to buy their new Camaro. No one wants to see it's 2nd death. How emberassing would that be?
Old 12-12-2005 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JG/70Z
The mullet mobile image might have been dumbed down from the 3rd/ late 2nd gen (disco babyyyy) era, but it did not go away. It's like a terrible stench that is not easy to get rid of.
Honestly, in real life, I have never heard of a 4th gen being referred to as a mullet mobile. I am not saying it hasn't happened, but not with any amount of frequency. Only place I hear it called a mullet mobile are on import message boards. 3rd gens, on the other hand, I have heard directly being referred to as redneck cars. It has been my general experiences that Mustangs and Camaros both are referred to by people that hate them as redneck mobiles, with the exception of the 1st gen cars, which seem to escape this stigma (almost) entirely.

About the Mustang's interior. What makes it more "classy". Because it doesn't look as cheap (which it is, although it hides it better.) You and I look at classy differently than. I agree, the 5th gen definelty needs a higher quality interior than the 4th gen had, but when I think of classy interiors I think of that SL500 Merc I sat in at the last car show in Philly.

As for the exterior of the new Mustang being classy, well I guess we will have to agree to disagree. It just looks tired and old to me, and the front always looks sad. The new Mustang may have a more "classic" look than the SN95s did, but it still doesn't look classic to me. Maybe because it is not a classic, just a knock off.
Old 12-12-2005 | 03:30 PM
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About the Mustang's interior. What makes it more "classy". Because it doesn't look as cheap (which it is, although it hides it better.)
I'm not saying it's on par with BMW's and Benz's. I'm saying for the Mustang, it's a step in that direction.

IMO the new Mustang has that classic look to it. I'm just wondering what the next redesign will look like? Are they going to take que's from the Mustang II?
Old 12-13-2005 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JG/70Z
I'm not saying it's on par with BMW's and Benz's. I'm saying for the Mustang, it's a step in that direction.

IMO the new Mustang has that classic look to it. I'm just wondering what the next redesign will look like? Are they going to take que's from the Mustang II?
The Cobalt is a step in that direction too, considering how much better it is than the departed Cavalier's interior. It still doesn't relaly make it more "classy" to me. I never thought BMW's had very classy interiors either. They seemed alot more purposeful, and alot more cold (although very well crafted.)

If the Mustang went in the direction of the Mustang II for the next generations, I would think that the Ford faithful would have to start wondering how long before their ponycar disappears from the market.
Old 12-13-2005 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JG/70Z
but I think we can agree that it has a more upscale/refined/quality , WHATEVER you want to call it, feel than it did have. This really has nothing to do with the subject at hand however because I'm sure the Camaro will have an interior/exterior to match or surpass the Mustangs. The problem is not with the physical attributes of the car, it's the image that it will emit to potential buyers. I'd rather have GM focus on the entire potential market for this car, rather than the headbanging drag racing crowd. For the Camaro to survive it doesn't need anything dragging it down off the starting line. Yes, of course enthusiasts are hyped about it, but what about the general public, THOSE are the people that GM has to convince to buy their new Camaro. No one wants to see it's 2nd death. How emberassing would that be?

very good points.
Old 12-13-2005 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by RussStang
About the Mustang's interior. What makes it more "classy". Because it doesn't look as cheap (which it is, although it hides it better.) You and I look at classy differently than. I agree, the 5th gen definelty needs a higher quality interior than the 4th gen had, but when I think of classy interiors I think of that SL500 Merc I sat in at the last car show in Philly.

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I believe the new Mustang Interior is much better executed than the last generation. What does concern me tho is unrealistic expectations. (I'm not talking about the new Camaro here....I'm talking about the Mustang) (pay attention..it isn't often that I say nice things about Mustang!) I think that for the price....that Ford did a great job with the new Mustang. You cannot expect to get a $40,000 interior in a $20,000 car....

Let me ask you this:
Which is more important? Acceleration and handling....or refined interior?

Now....don't go jumping to conclusions. I'm just asking the question from a Ford perspective.

And don't tell me both...that's like answering the question "which would you rather have, a blond or a brunette" with "Both!"
Old 12-13-2005 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Planet
I believe the new Mustang Interior is much better executed than the last generation. What does concern me tho is unrealistic expectations. (I'm not talking about the new Camaro here....I'm talking about the Mustang) (pay attention..it isn't often that I say nice things about Mustang!) I think that for the price....that Ford did a great job with the new Mustang. You cannot expect to get a $40,000 interior in a $20,000 car....

Let me ask you this:
Which is more important? Acceleration and handling....or refined interior?

Now....don't go jumping to conclusions. I'm just asking the question from a Ford perspective.

And don't tell me both...that's like answering the question "which would you rather have, a blond or a brunette" with "Both!"

from a Ford perspective, i'd have to go with refined interior.
Old 12-13-2005 | 12:47 AM
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I'm all about acceleration and handling but whatever it takes to keep it around is what I want.
Old 12-13-2005 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Planet
I believe the new Mustang Interior is much better executed than the last generation. What does concern me tho is unrealistic expectations. (I'm not talking about the new Camaro here....I'm talking about the Mustang) (pay attention..it isn't often that I say nice things about Mustang!) I think that for the price....that Ford did a great job with the new Mustang. You cannot expect to get a $40,000 interior in a $20,000 car....

Let me ask you this:
Which is more important? Acceleration and handling....or refined interior?

Now....don't go jumping to conclusions. I'm just asking the question from a Ford perspective.

And don't tell me both...that's like answering the question "which would you rather have, a blond or a brunette" with "Both!"
I didn't say I hated the Mustang interior (although it is alittle too retro for my tastes), but it is kind of cheap. Ford just did a better job of hiding it. For me, acceleration and handling come above a nice interior, but obviously the buying public isn't going to agree with me as a whole. I know there is going to be a compromise in the materials used on the interior of a pony car, for the simple fact that you are buying a car with a v8 and a beefy drivetrain. I don't nitpick the hell out of an interior on this board like several board members on here do, but just as a casual observer who has sat in the car (never driven one), the materials are kind of cheap.
Old 12-13-2005 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Planet

Let me ask you this:
Which is more important? Acceleration and handling....or refined interior?

Now....don't go jumping to conclusions. I'm just asking the question from a Ford perspective.

And don't tell me both...that's like answering the question "which would you rather have, a blond or a brunette" with "Both!"
Personally, I prefer brunettes. But I like them to have great acceleration/handling and refined interiors.
Old 12-13-2005 | 10:31 AM
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Let me ask you this:
Which is more important? Acceleration and handling....or refined interior?

And don't tell me both...that's like answering the question "which would you rather have, a blond or a brunette" with "Both!"
Put it this way, you can fix acceleration and handling yourself with the aftermarket, but you can't, affordably, redesign the interior.

And I'll take one of each for the ladies, thank you....
Old 12-13-2005 | 05:28 PM
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I didn't want to read through the 5 pages so hopefully this idea hasn't already been mentioned.

Commercial starts with a man with a mullet driving in his 3rd gen Camaro with some rock n roll music blasting through the speakers. He goes to his house and everything seems to be stuck in the 80's. He then goes into his local Chevy dealer and sees the '09 Camaro and his jaw drops. We then see this same man with modern haircut wearing a business suit stepping into his new '09 Camaro. As he's about to drive off, he turns on the radio and has the same rock n roll music blasting. Then you hear the voice say "It's not the same Camaro" or "Camaro. It's more refined".

Mike G.
Old 12-14-2005 | 02:16 AM
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I doubt a commercial like that is going to make the cut.
Old 12-14-2005 | 04:36 AM
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Seems that most of youare talking about television advertisements. What about print ads?

I have always liked the sayings in these ads.

1967 Camaro Ad

"Command Performance"

1966 Chevelle SS Ad

"The SS does not stand for standing still"

1969 Nova Ad

"Makes you want to deport your import"

Combined with a modern rendition of the "no photos" policy that they had (more seriously in the 50's) back in the day. Artwork just conveys more emotion, and emotion/excitement/wonder are somethings that the automotive world has been lacking for some time IMO (though there are exceptions).



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