Ain't no muscle like Detroit muscle
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Why, then, are you here Adatude? You sound like you aren't going to buy a new Camaro. So, don't. That leaves more for me to choose from
Here's the logic everyone needs to adapt: GM is in a fight right now for it's very existance. Toyota, Honda, and other global manufacturers have made things really tough on GM. Like it or not, today's day and age requires a car company to be overtly fleixible and to utilize its global assets, and it cannot rely strictly on one or two geographic locations to design, engineer, and produce a car simply because "it's our patriotic duty" or whatever.
GM has had a global resource structure for years, but only recently realized they need to use it for the best of their advantages. I actually take the stand of applauding GM for using a Holden engineered drivetrain and some interior, Detroit for the exterior, and the highest quality assembly plant in North America to produce it (Oshawa has been #1 for a few years). There may be some German refinement in the suspension department before it's all said and done. Wouldn't that be great? Wouldn't you want a car crafted to be the best it can be, rather than just settling for status quo? I do, and I'm glad GM is doing it.
As for the Detroit muscle, it's still Detroit muscle. Because it was a Detroit halmark that influenced the engine design. Any V8 engine, even if it's made in China, that is a pushrod with gobs of torque and horsepower and has a signature sound can be considered Detroit muscle.
Here's the logic everyone needs to adapt: GM is in a fight right now for it's very existance. Toyota, Honda, and other global manufacturers have made things really tough on GM. Like it or not, today's day and age requires a car company to be overtly fleixible and to utilize its global assets, and it cannot rely strictly on one or two geographic locations to design, engineer, and produce a car simply because "it's our patriotic duty" or whatever.
GM has had a global resource structure for years, but only recently realized they need to use it for the best of their advantages. I actually take the stand of applauding GM for using a Holden engineered drivetrain and some interior, Detroit for the exterior, and the highest quality assembly plant in North America to produce it (Oshawa has been #1 for a few years). There may be some German refinement in the suspension department before it's all said and done. Wouldn't that be great? Wouldn't you want a car crafted to be the best it can be, rather than just settling for status quo? I do, and I'm glad GM is doing it.
As for the Detroit muscle, it's still Detroit muscle. Because it was a Detroit halmark that influenced the engine design. Any V8 engine, even if it's made in China, that is a pushrod with gobs of torque and horsepower and has a signature sound can be considered Detroit muscle.
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For some reason, it seems to be trendy to think of everything as "global" these days to the point where calling something "American" becomes almost evil.....but basically, it all comes down to who's in charge of any endeavor. NASA didn't say that their suppliers went to the moon - NASA went to the moon because NASA made it work.
The same holds true in the automotive business these days. GM is an American company regardless of its global resources because of it's character, its product, its style and the fact that it's based here - the profits come back here. But that doesn't take away from Holden, or Daewoo or any other arm of GM that does excellent work - GM has global resources and should use them. Utlimately every division of GM, regardless of location, should work together......but somehow the media has identified GM as an evil entity because it is American. And now, here, we have someone complaining over the wording on a cool poster because of the same mindset.....that's just sad.....
The same holds true in the automotive business these days. GM is an American company regardless of its global resources because of it's character, its product, its style and the fact that it's based here - the profits come back here. But that doesn't take away from Holden, or Daewoo or any other arm of GM that does excellent work - GM has global resources and should use them. Utlimately every division of GM, regardless of location, should work together......but somehow the media has identified GM as an evil entity because it is American. And now, here, we have someone complaining over the wording on a cool poster because of the same mindset.....that's just sad.....
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It's DETROIT MUSCLE because I said so.
Period.
Seriously folks, -- it takes thousands of people to design, engineer, and build a car --
The Camaro is what I call "Performance - American Style" -- and by that I mean a muscular V8 engine and RWD with has always been an American hallmark.........always.
The modern design with heritage styling cues make the Camaro uniquely American --regardless of where its built........
.........and frankly, I have no problems with GM of Canada taking the picture and reworking it to read "Canadian Muscle" --
Period.
Seriously folks, -- it takes thousands of people to design, engineer, and build a car --
The Camaro is what I call "Performance - American Style" -- and by that I mean a muscular V8 engine and RWD with has always been an American hallmark.........always.
The modern design with heritage styling cues make the Camaro uniquely American --regardless of where its built........
.........and frankly, I have no problems with GM of Canada taking the picture and reworking it to read "Canadian Muscle" --
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Love the poster
I was born and raised in Oshawa and i consider the Camaro to be Detroit muscele , great poster.And if it means anything Oshawa is Canadas Detroit , Oshawa used to make LS6 Chevelles if that is not muscele i dont know what is lol, so i think it is great that the new Camaro is being built where Chevrolets best muscele car was built, but i am biased lol.