..That still thinks it is absolutely absurd that it is taking almost 4 years for GM to bring this car to production? I mean it took the Viper 18 months to hit the showroom - a car without a shared platform. When I heard back in 2006 that I would have to wait 4 years until this thing hit the road, I was beyond disgusted. I think its a miracle that I've been able to hold interest up to this point... Granted, it is exciting with the pictures and info that has been coming out about the car as of late, but there are still many unannounced details (engines, pricing, basic dimensions) that could doom the car months before it hits showrooms, and I think we are all giving GM a bit too much credit at this point. As a long time f-body owner I am as excited as the next enthusiast about the potential of the car, and as of now I fully intend to pick one up immediately if the optimistic rumors prove to be true, but I think GM's strategy of bringing the car to market is yet another embarrassment for the company. I just hope that they can make up for it and back up the hype.

As far as the pre-production pictures, the car appears considerably narrower/taller than the concept, and more "boulbus" overall with softer edges. But like most everyone else, I will hold judgment until I see it in person (or at least considerably more pictures from different angles). I guess it is still a huge success in comparison to other concept to production transitions. I just hope I can keep what little faith I have left until next Feb, because if they miss the target on this one I know I won't be buying another GM product again.

 

 

I'm not sure why you're saying 4 years......

Jan 9 2006 -- concept was shown -- and when it was unveiled, Rick Wagoner said very specifically that we had no plans at that time to build the car.....

Mid August 2006-- we announced that the Camaro had just rec'd a green light.......

Sept 2006 -- Engineering team members transferred to Melbourne, Australia to start work in earnest.


4th quarter of 2008 -- Camaro goes into production at Oshawa.....

1st quarter of 2009 -- Camaro hits dealerships.

Even from the day the car was unveiled -- you're talking 3 years -- not 4 -- and in reality -- it will be a 25-26 month car -- less than the 1967 model......

Whole new architecture..............unlike Challenger.

 

Yes...yes you are.

 

I guess I was also considering the fact that the top model is projected to come out a year after the base.

 

Uhm, Jan 2006 to 1st quarter 2009 is still three years in NC...........it is a leap year this year, maybe there's gonna be some sort of spatial time displacement event that I missed reading about.

Anyway, personally, this time frame works to my advantage. I couldn't possibly think about getting another new car before next year. And I want to be able to get into one the first year they are available. Your comparison to the Viper is a bit skewed since we are not talking about the same numbers of production and the fact that an entire plant has to be refitted for this car. I highly recommend that anyone who thinks that building 100,000 cars a year from scratch check out one of the episodes of 'Ultimate Factories' on TLC or Discovery. There's a lot of equipment, programming, line testing and more that has to be setup and tested before you can ever think about starting your production runs. And who really knows how long cars have already been in the works behind the scenes. Plus, we are having design, prototypes, testing, and much more being done around the world, not just here. Before the internet, we would sit and read the latest news in the ragazines and that information was always months behind and then one day, there were the cars. We have become too accustomed to the instant information pipeline and things just don't move that quickly for everything.

There's going to be a lot of information starting to come out this year in preparation for the cars release. My salesman told me today that Chevrolet is going to have another website just for the Camaro coming soon. The link is not active yet, so no need to post it up. As soon as it is, believe me, you'll see it here or one of the other forums that day. Keep checking back.

Be happy that we're getting another affordable, RWD performance car for the V-8 crowd with the name Camaro assigned to it.

Hope you 'keep the faith' a little longer, I think it's gonna be worth it.

 

True.... I am anxious to own a new Camaro but at the same time I am patient enough to understand that it takes time to work out the details and get the car ready for production. The Viper is a purpose built car, and as mentioned above is produced in limited numbers. The Camaro needs to be a car for the masses, it needs to ride well, handle well, and work well for the the V6 to the Monster V8... the Viper does not have that versatility. My thought is if the Camaro team rushes production they will either miss some detail or cut corners which will doom the car to a short life... something that most of us do not want to see again. I feel the Camaro is in capable hands and willing to wait patiently so I can order my dream car.

Keep up the good work Scott and Team!!

Roger

1969 RS Camaro
1953 356 Porsche
1957 Chevy PU (Wife's)
1977 Blazer 2WD (L98)
2006 Magnum R/T

 

I hate the wait. But, building a whole new US platform based on an existing engineering exercise between Holden and GM --- T A K E S T I M E.

What gives me the warm-fuzzies are - GM is producing a car that is taking advantage of all the racing experience gathered by Holden in the V8 Supercar racing series, for a FRACTION of what it would cost to do it themselves.

AND -- they are taking the time to not only make the engineering "right" for us American folks -- they are also MAKING SURE it will (very difficult to do) appeal to the "masses" for an INCREDIBLE price-point.

I D A R E you to do better.

I am willing to wait, despite the aforementioned "annoyances."

Quality, reliability, performance, and styling TAKES TIME.

'Nuff said??????

GO FBODFATHER AND ALL GM FOLKS!!!!!!

We can't thank you enough. Seriously.

THANK YOU.

 

to answer your question, yes, yes your the only one.

Faith. keep it.

 

"Good things come to those who wait"

 

Considering the fact Chevy had to wait till the Zeta Sedans were ready and the hold on the Zeta slowed them down for a short time. And the fact the plant to build it is just now becoming available.

This ont he Camaro have to move in concert with related GM project. Everything does not revolve around the Camaro. Once you learn how thing work and how they have to work with other projects you then understand the time and effort involved in building this car.

The time taken is not strange as in many cases you never even knew about the car till it already was in the works for 2 year or more.

When GM did the Fiero it was concieved in 1978 and with related delays it took till 1984 to intro. In reality it too longer to bring that car to market than it sold.

This is why what they decide now will effectr things in 2020.

 

Yeah - you're the only one......and frankly.....I'm bored with people complaining about this (among other things).

I saw BB3 at NAIAS yesterday and this car is crack on wheels.......I just can't get enough!!! To everyone on the Camaro team (and Scott) - THANK YOU!!! And keep up the great work!!!

 

You really sound like somebody that is too impatient...

"If they don't meet the established fuzzy launch date, i'm never going to buy GM again"

After reading this i hope they miss your imaginative deadline by a week, so there will be 1 more Camaro on the market for someone who will truely appreciate it... like me.

 

I have to second that. YES, you are the only one. Just go buy that Silver or Blah Camary you've been hankering for.

 

Screw that! I hope they're 4 months early so after the dealer mark-up bull**** is over with, I can get mine around may/june