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Old 01-22-2008 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
I'm sorry, but this is flat-out silly.

If this is the case, then why not have a 7 year "hiatus" between every generation? I mean seriously, let's not build the Camaro until it has Mr. Fusion and can make 500 horsepower on garbage. That's a feature we'd all like. I'm willing to wait for that new 2030 Camaro, how 'bout you?

I can quite imagine Mustang guys wishing the SN95 cars did not exist, because XM radio was not available yet in 1994.
I wasn't trying to claim they should 'store up' enhancements and sit out the market with an intentional hiatus. But at the same time... there really hasn't been much of a hiatus, especially when one considers the gap that has been filled by the LSx GTO in the meantime. I had a 2005 GTO and whle it was a GREAT car... it was missing some of the features I mentioned. So I'm glad to see them coming soon in the Camaro.
Old 01-22-2008 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDarknFast
there really hasn't been much of a hiatus.


I dunno, to me....Chevrolet just wasn't Chevrolet without the Camaro. Every day that went by without that car in the showroom seemed like a large void.

GTO was a very nice car, but it wasn't a Camaro.
Old 01-23-2008 | 02:40 AM
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I dunno, to me....Chevrolet just wasn't Chevrolet without the Camaro. Every day that went by without that car in the showroom seemed like a large void.

GTO was a very nice car, but it wasn't a Camaro.
Unless you're a GTO fan, you don't have much of a clue what a REAL hiatus is like
Old 01-23-2008 | 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Z28Wilson


I dunno, to me....Chevrolet just wasn't Chevrolet without the Camaro. Every day that went by without that car in the showroom seemed like a large void.

GTO was a very nice car, but it wasn't a Camaro.
you went into a dealership showroom every day?? do you work at a chevy dealership?
Old 01-23-2008 | 01:58 PM
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Unless you're a GTO fan, you don't have much of a clue what a REAL hiatus is like
GTO? Try Challenger!
Those people have the biggest set. They laugh at GM taking 6 months longer to make a Camaro then it did a Challenger, they need to look at the last time Chrysler made an affordable RWD v8 powerd 2 door performance ANYTHING
Old 01-23-2008 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Als Z
They laugh at GM taking 6 months longer to make a Camaro then it did a Challenger
And they selectively forget that the Challenger is based off existing architecture while the Camaro is on an all-new platform.

They sure as hell won't forget what a pig they are driving when they get their asses handed to them by a Camaro at every stoplight.

Sorry, had to throw a jab in there.
Old 01-24-2008 | 10:26 AM
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And they selectively forget that the Challenger is based off existing architecture while the Camaro is on an all-new platform.

They sure as hell won't forget what a pig they are driving when they get their asses handed to them by a Camaro at every stoplight.

Sorry, had to throw a jab in there.
Well Jason, they did lighten up when they removed the 8 wheels, the tank treads, and the turret with the 120mm smooth bore barrel off the top, so it is a lot lighter then the platform is based off of....


Old 01-24-2008 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Als Z
GTO? Try Challenger!
Those people have the biggest set. They laugh at GM taking 6 months longer to make a Camaro then it did a Challenger, they need to look at the last time Chrysler made an affordable RWD v8 powerd 2 door performance ANYTHING
I haven't heard any Mopar fans laughing at GM over the Camaro delay.

And as far as the whole "Challenger is a heavy pig" line of argument goes, let's wait and find out what these cars (both of 'em) actually weigh before we go too far down that line of discussion, eh?
Old 01-24-2008 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by georgejetson
I haven't heard any Mopar fans laughing at GM over the Camaro delay.

And as far as the whole "Challenger is a heavy pig" line of argument goes, let's wait and find out what these cars (both of 'em) actually weigh before we go too far down that line of discussion, eh?

I agree. I have a feeling thay Camaro and Challenger will be very close in weight....


BTW Al, That's an M1 tank not a Challenger tank.
Old 01-24-2008 | 11:01 AM
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I agree. I have a feeling thay Camaro and Challenger will be very close in weight....
Until the numbers are released for both cars, we wont know for sure, but I think Camaro will come in a few hundred pounds lighter than Challenger.
Old 01-24-2008 | 11:04 AM
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Until the numbers are released for both cars, we wont know for sure, but I think Camaro will come in a few hundred pounds lighter than Challenger.

Agreed. And I hope Camaro does come in several hundred pounds less than Challenger. But there are lots of numbers flying around for Camaro - most of them very scary.
Old 01-24-2008 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
Agreed. And I hope Camaro does come in several hundred pounds less than Challenger. But there are lots of numbers flying around for Camaro - most of them very scary.

Possibly. A Commodore SSV manual weighs 3,950 lbs, but should be longer than the camaro, has two more doors complete with internals/panels, etc.. A 3,600-3,700 lbs camaro would be great (and I think possible), but if she weighs in at 4K, I'll still get one (but I doubt it will be that heavy)

http://www.holden.com.au/pdf/choosea...VE_Weights.pdf

The new G8 sedan weighs in at 3,885 lbs while the G8GT weighs in at 3,995lbs

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Old 01-24-2008 | 12:49 PM
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but if she weighs in at 4K, I'll still get one
Would you? What if it's more than that........?
Old 01-24-2008 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
Would you? What if it's more than that........?
It won't weigh more than that. Now way it could weigh more than a longer 4 door version.

*IF* it came in at over 4K, I'd have to take a serious look at the power/fuel econ numbers, but most likely still get it It's just such a damn good looking car

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Old 01-24-2008 | 03:34 PM
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im guessin the maro will be in the 3700-3800 range.



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