Bob Lutz speaks about the Camaro
10-11-2007 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BobLutz
On a side note, Vice President for Global Design Ed Welburn was on the drive, too. Seeing his beloved Camaro as a real car… in near-final metal, glass, rubber and plastic… transformed from a visionary dream into a highly drivable reality… well, it was almost too much for him. He broke ranks, ran over to it, and hugged it! I have the photo to prove it — but of course we can’t show it to you just yet!
10-11-2007 | 11:43 PM
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10-12-2007 | 11:04 AM
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Secondly, a single car prepared in a warehouse is still just a prototype and not a production vehicle.
Patience has its virtues.
10-12-2007 | 11:11 AM
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smilie does not mean that they are insulting you. The use of smilies is intended to show emotion where emotion cannot be inflected by words alone. However some of you seem to take these as personal insults. That is just plain silly.If I wanted to tell someone they are stupid, I would say "you're stupid" or "that was a dumb question". The fact that I took the time to answer him shows that I thought it was worthwhile answering him. If I really thought he was stupid I wouldn't take the time to respond.
In the words of the late, great Warren Oates... "Lighten up, Francis!"
10-12-2007 | 12:04 PM
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When they start doing real world tuning.
We just started getting spyshots of the Challenger back in August, and that's in our own back yard. That makes it about 6 months prior to it's unveiling. We got spyshots of the Corvette just ahead of it's unveiling as well.
My guess. Late next spring.
1. It costs a bank vault of money to make a prototype. It ain't going to happen till it's needed.
2. The prototype thats made to test out supplier parts isn't going to happen till towards the end of development.
3. The amount of time to develop a car takes into account the amount of time it takes suppliers to create parts and to set up their own manufacturing line. They are already under some extreme timetables to get the Camaro ready within a 2 1/2 year timeline. "Official Approval" (the point where money starts flowing and contracts are authorized) occured only last summer. I doubt anything from them will be "production ready" ready till mid to late winter at the very earliest.
Exactly.
Exactly..... times 2!
We just started getting spyshots of the Challenger back in August, and that's in our own back yard. That makes it about 6 months prior to it's unveiling. We got spyshots of the Corvette just ahead of it's unveiling as well.
My guess. Late next spring.
2. The prototype thats made to test out supplier parts isn't going to happen till towards the end of development.
3. The amount of time to develop a car takes into account the amount of time it takes suppliers to create parts and to set up their own manufacturing line. They are already under some extreme timetables to get the Camaro ready within a 2 1/2 year timeline. "Official Approval" (the point where money starts flowing and contracts are authorized) occured only last summer. I doubt anything from them will be "production ready" ready till mid to late winter at the very earliest.
First that would never happen. GM is going to have the production supplies ready as close to when they are needed to build the production cars. They are not going to rush out and have all the parts produced 18 months ahead of when they need them. If they were to do that on a regular basis, they'd have to close their doors soon after. Remember they are a business and they are in this to make money. If Camaro isn't profitable it will fail.
Secondly, a single car prepared in a warehouse is still just a prototype and not a production vehicle.
Patience has its virtues.
Secondly, a single car prepared in a warehouse is still just a prototype and not a production vehicle.
Patience has its virtues.
What is it with your generation? Just because one uses a smilie does not mean that they are insulting you. The use of smilies is intended to show emotion where emotion cannot be inflected by words alone. However some of you seem to take these as personal insults. That is just plain silly.
If I wanted to tell someone they are stupid, I would say "you're stupid" or "that was a dumb question". The fact that I took the time to answer him shows that I thought it was worthwhile answering him. If I really thought he was stupid I wouldn't take the time to respond.
In the words of the late, great Warren Oates... "Lighten up, Francis!"
smilie does not mean that they are insulting you. The use of smilies is intended to show emotion where emotion cannot be inflected by words alone. However some of you seem to take these as personal insults. That is just plain silly.If I wanted to tell someone they are stupid, I would say "you're stupid" or "that was a dumb question". The fact that I took the time to answer him shows that I thought it was worthwhile answering him. If I really thought he was stupid I wouldn't take the time to respond.
In the words of the late, great Warren Oates... "Lighten up, Francis!"
10-12-2007 | 01:23 PM
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I agree. I think they learned a lesson with the Dec 2005 LS1tech leak of the clown car pics right before 2006 NAIAS.
10-12-2007 | 06:08 PM
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