Is the camaro coming out on 2011 or 2012?
Ok, I know what you're saying ... maybe I mis-read his statement.
10-22-2007 | 12:10 PM
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I was going to say, there's an LS3 08' Vette sitting in our local showroom. I'll be perfectly happy with an LS3 Camaro......SS or Z28 doesn't really matter, though I put my money on the Z28 being the top Camaro, if not ZL1
10-22-2007 | 01:05 PM
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10-22-2007 | 01:22 PM
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Guess so.
As for the LS3, Im sure it will be the Top V8 when the car is launched. I wonder, maybe this is for the powertrain section, that we will see an engine between the 3.6 and the LS3? Could we see a mid 300hp V8 like the L76 with AFM like in the G8? And if so, does that mean that there will be NO manual trans? Maybe it will work like the G8, and that the manual car will not get AFM? Maybe just a 6spd auto with paddle shifters for the L76 equiped car?
3.6 with 6spd manual or automatic
6.0 L76 with AFM and E85 ability but auto only?
6.2 LS3 with 6spd manual and automatic
Too big of a jump from 270hp V6 to a 400+ V8. I would only hope that GM has planed for it. I assume that the L76 will be the workhorse for all Zeta cars, with the LS3 being the "SS" engine for both Camaro and Impala.
As for the LS3, Im sure it will be the Top V8 when the car is launched. I wonder, maybe this is for the powertrain section, that we will see an engine between the 3.6 and the LS3? Could we see a mid 300hp V8 like the L76 with AFM like in the G8? And if so, does that mean that there will be NO manual trans? Maybe it will work like the G8, and that the manual car will not get AFM? Maybe just a 6spd auto with paddle shifters for the L76 equiped car?
3.6 with 6spd manual or automatic
6.0 L76 with AFM and E85 ability but auto only?
6.2 LS3 with 6spd manual and automatic
Too big of a jump from 270hp V6 to a 400+ V8. I would only hope that GM has planed for it. I assume that the L76 will be the workhorse for all Zeta cars, with the LS3 being the "SS" engine for both Camaro and Impala.
10-22-2007 | 01:29 PM
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Guess so.
As for the LS3, Im sure it will be the Top V8 when the car is launched. I wonder, maybe this is for the powertrain section, that we will see an engine between the 3.6 and the LS3? Could we see a mid 300hp V8 like the L76 with AFM like in the G8? And if so, does that mean that there will be NO manual trans? Maybe it will work like the G8, and that the manual car will not get AFM? Maybe just a 6spd auto with paddle shifters for the L76 equiped car?
3.6 with 6spd manual or automatic
6.0 L76 with AFM and E85 ability but auto only?
6.2 LS3 with 6spd manual and automatic
Too big of a jump from 270hp V6 to a 400+ V8. I would only hope that GM has planed for it. I assume that the L76 will be the workhorse for all Zeta cars, with the LS3 being the "SS" engine for both Camaro and Impala.
As for the LS3, Im sure it will be the Top V8 when the car is launched. I wonder, maybe this is for the powertrain section, that we will see an engine between the 3.6 and the LS3? Could we see a mid 300hp V8 like the L76 with AFM like in the G8? And if so, does that mean that there will be NO manual trans? Maybe it will work like the G8, and that the manual car will not get AFM? Maybe just a 6spd auto with paddle shifters for the L76 equiped car?
3.6 with 6spd manual or automatic
6.0 L76 with AFM and E85 ability but auto only?
6.2 LS3 with 6spd manual and automatic
Too big of a jump from 270hp V6 to a 400+ V8. I would only hope that GM has planed for it. I assume that the L76 will be the workhorse for all Zeta cars, with the LS3 being the "SS" engine for both Camaro and Impala.
10-22-2007 | 02:22 PM
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Guess so.
As for the LS3, Im sure it will be the Top V8 when the car is launched. I wonder, maybe this is for the powertrain section, that we will see an engine between the 3.6 and the LS3? Could we see a mid 300hp V8 like the L76 with AFM like in the G8? And if so, does that mean that there will be NO manual trans? Maybe it will work like the G8, and that the manual car will not get AFM? Maybe just a 6spd auto with paddle shifters for the L76 equiped car?
3.6 with 6spd manual or automatic
6.0 L76 with AFM and E85 ability but auto only?
6.2 LS3 with 6spd manual and automatic
Too big of a jump from 270hp V6 to a 400+ V8. I would only hope that GM has planed for it. I assume that the L76 will be the workhorse for all Zeta cars, with the LS3 being the "SS" engine for both Camaro and Impala.
As for the LS3, Im sure it will be the Top V8 when the car is launched. I wonder, maybe this is for the powertrain section, that we will see an engine between the 3.6 and the LS3? Could we see a mid 300hp V8 like the L76 with AFM like in the G8? And if so, does that mean that there will be NO manual trans? Maybe it will work like the G8, and that the manual car will not get AFM? Maybe just a 6spd auto with paddle shifters for the L76 equiped car?
3.6 with 6spd manual or automatic
6.0 L76 with AFM and E85 ability but auto only?
6.2 LS3 with 6spd manual and automatic
Too big of a jump from 270hp V6 to a 400+ V8. I would only hope that GM has planed for it. I assume that the L76 will be the workhorse for all Zeta cars, with the LS3 being the "SS" engine for both Camaro and Impala.
the mid lvl will most likely be a v6.. i've heard they are considering the DI version at over 300hp
and then the LS3..
so .. 240, 305, 430... sounds fine to me
10-23-2007 | 12:05 AM
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So what engine (V8) IS going to be in the car ..... the LS2?!?!?! 
.It's obvious that the Camaro will have the LS3 as unless they update the LS engine again before 2009 what other engine would they use?
10-23-2007 | 04:18 AM
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They should make the base V6 the D.I. 3.6L 304 hp, it should beat the V8 Mustangs like it did back in the mid 90s 
! The L76 the main platform(SS IMO) at 362hp and the LS3 the top dog(Z28) at 430 hp. Perhaps release a ZR-1 at a later time with a S/C 6.2 or LS7.
RS: V6 3.6L 304 hp
SS: V8 6.0L 362 hp
Z28: V8 6.2L 430 hp
ZR1: V8 7.0L 505 hp / V8 S/C 6.2L 600+ hp
! The L76 the main platform(SS IMO) at 362hp and the LS3 the top dog(Z28) at 430 hp. Perhaps release a ZR-1 at a later time with a S/C 6.2 or LS7.RS: V6 3.6L 304 hp
SS: V8 6.0L 362 hp
Z28: V8 6.2L 430 hp
ZR1: V8 7.0L 505 hp / V8 S/C 6.2L 600+ hp
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10-23-2007 | 06:54 AM
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Sorry but after most of the info posted here and else where I assumed most understood the Z28 is the top dog with the SS being the standard performance car.
Being this the LS3 is going in the SS and the Z28 will get it own V8 that is not even out yet. At this point I would assume it a lower cost LS 7 supercharged engine than the ZR1. I also expect it will have to be at least 550-600 HP with the engines that the Mustang and Challanger will have by then. But the engine is something I am sure they have not nailed down all to gether yet as it is still a ways off yet.
Keep in mind there also has been reports of some other engines GM is working on that could find there way into a top line Camaro that we have not seen or heard of.
The LS3 is only a starting point and the V6's will be near and as good as the 4th gen left off at.
The future is goning to be very bright.
Please also don't start the z28-ss argument and Scott has said all he can right now and has given us a good indication of what to expect. Remember a SS can be any Chevy where a Z28 can only be a Camaro. Also all the new special Vettes are Z cars in their own way so read the writting on the wall.
Being this the LS3 is going in the SS and the Z28 will get it own V8 that is not even out yet. At this point I would assume it a lower cost LS 7 supercharged engine than the ZR1. I also expect it will have to be at least 550-600 HP with the engines that the Mustang and Challanger will have by then. But the engine is something I am sure they have not nailed down all to gether yet as it is still a ways off yet.
Keep in mind there also has been reports of some other engines GM is working on that could find there way into a top line Camaro that we have not seen or heard of.
The LS3 is only a starting point and the V6's will be near and as good as the 4th gen left off at.
The future is goning to be very bright.
Please also don't start the z28-ss argument and Scott has said all he can right now and has given us a good indication of what to expect. Remember a SS can be any Chevy where a Z28 can only be a Camaro. Also all the new special Vettes are Z cars in their own way so read the writting on the wall.
10-23-2007 | 01:51 PM
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Sorry but after most of the info posted here and else where I assumed most understood the Z28 is the top dog with the SS being the standard performance car.
Being this the LS3 is going in the SS and the Z28 will get it own V8 that is not even out yet. At this point I would assume it a lower cost LS 7 supercharged engine than the ZR1. I also expect it will have to be at least 550-600 HP with the engines that the Mustang and Challanger will have by then. But the engine is something I am sure they have not nailed down all to gether yet as it is still a ways off yet.
Keep in mind there also has been reports of some other engines GM is working on that could find there way into a top line Camaro that we have not seen or heard of.
The LS3 is only a starting point and the V6's will be near and as good as the 4th gen left off at.
The future is goning to be very bright.
Please also don't start the z28-ss argument and Scott has said all he can right now and has given us a good indication of what to expect. Remember a SS can be any Chevy where a Z28 can only be a Camaro. Also all the new special Vettes are Z cars in their own way so read the writting on the wall.
Being this the LS3 is going in the SS and the Z28 will get it own V8 that is not even out yet. At this point I would assume it a lower cost LS 7 supercharged engine than the ZR1. I also expect it will have to be at least 550-600 HP with the engines that the Mustang and Challanger will have by then. But the engine is something I am sure they have not nailed down all to gether yet as it is still a ways off yet.
Keep in mind there also has been reports of some other engines GM is working on that could find there way into a top line Camaro that we have not seen or heard of.
The LS3 is only a starting point and the V6's will be near and as good as the 4th gen left off at.
The future is goning to be very bright.
Please also don't start the z28-ss argument and Scott has said all he can right now and has given us a good indication of what to expect. Remember a SS can be any Chevy where a Z28 can only be a Camaro. Also all the new special Vettes are Z cars in their own way so read the writting on the wall.
Not to poke fun, but you could also say "only a Z24 could be a Cavalier and only a Z34 could be a Lumina... " I have no doubt that Chevy will have a Z28 and SS on this Camaro, RS package would be nice too, but to go off past GM marketing isn't a great indication of where they go in the future.
10-23-2007 | 03:20 PM
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The DI motor wont be standard, if available at all.
Its still exclusive to the Caddy brand, and probably will be for some time. What we will probably see is the Lambda-verson of the 3.6 making 275hp.
You wont get a DI motor in a 23k Camaro when the next car to carry a DI 3.6 is optional on a luxury CTS at 35k, and standard on the STS at 40k.
Wont happen, get over it.
Its still exclusive to the Caddy brand, and probably will be for some time. What we will probably see is the Lambda-verson of the 3.6 making 275hp.
You wont get a DI motor in a 23k Camaro when the next car to carry a DI 3.6 is optional on a luxury CTS at 35k, and standard on the STS at 40k.
Wont happen, get over it.
10-23-2007 | 05:16 PM
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The DI motor wont be standard, if available at all.
Its still exclusive to the Caddy brand, and probably will be for some time. What we will probably see is the Lambda-verson of the 3.6 making 275hp.
You wont get a DI motor in a 23k Camaro when the next car to carry a DI 3.6 is optional on a luxury CTS at 35k, and standard on the STS at 40k.
Wont happen, get over it.
Its still exclusive to the Caddy brand, and probably will be for some time. What we will probably see is the Lambda-verson of the 3.6 making 275hp.
You wont get a DI motor in a 23k Camaro when the next car to carry a DI 3.6 is optional on a luxury CTS at 35k, and standard on the STS at 40k.
Wont happen, get over it.
To everyone saying there won't be a top model until the second running year, I have never actually seen this confirmed by anyone in the "winky" club on here. Why does GM need to wait? We have gotten some strong pushes here in the direction of the top car getting a blown v8, and by the time the Camaro comes out the blown v8 will have already been ironed out (it pretty much is already for the Vette application), so who has info on a real timetable?
10-23-2007 | 05:27 PM
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What are you sources?
To everyone saying there won't be a top model until the second running year, I have never actually seen this confirmed by anyone in the "winky" club on here. Why does GM need to wait? We have gotten some strong pushes here in the direction of the top car getting a blown v8, and by the time the Camaro comes out the blown v8 will have already been ironed out (it pretty much is already for the Vette application), so who has info on a real timetable?
To everyone saying there won't be a top model until the second running year, I have never actually seen this confirmed by anyone in the "winky" club on here. Why does GM need to wait? We have gotten some strong pushes here in the direction of the top car getting a blown v8, and by the time the Camaro comes out the blown v8 will have already been ironed out (it pretty much is already for the Vette application), so who has info on a real timetable?
They know who they are.
10-23-2007 | 05:58 PM
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What are you sources?
To everyone saying there won't be a top model until the second running year, I have never actually seen this confirmed by anyone in the "winky" club on here. Why does GM need to wait? We have gotten some strong pushes here in the direction of the top car getting a blown v8, and by the time the Camaro comes out the blown v8 will have already been ironed out (it pretty much is already for the Vette application), so who has info on a real timetable?
To everyone saying there won't be a top model until the second running year, I have never actually seen this confirmed by anyone in the "winky" club on here. Why does GM need to wait? We have gotten some strong pushes here in the direction of the top car getting a blown v8, and by the time the Camaro comes out the blown v8 will have already been ironed out (it pretty much is already for the Vette application), so who has info on a real timetable?
A blown motor for the Z/28 is a very strong contender in the rumor mill. But that's smack dab in the middle of when the Gen V smallblock comes out as well. We'll see....