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Old 12-11-2005 | 07:42 PM
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Re: Camaro concept at LA auto show??

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Don't think for a minute that we don't know the importance of the West Coast market.

The problem is that LA schedules the show on top of NAIAS. NAIAS gets thousands of press peeps........thousands...whereas LA gets less than 100.

Now........LA organizers realize that and LA gets moved in November in 2006....(two shows....January.....then in November...then they stay in November from here on out)

I will post a schedule for the concept after January 9.
what aboot us canucks?
Old 12-12-2005 | 01:15 PM
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RED I think moving the LA Show to Nov is a great idea. People here notice that Toyota, Honda and Nissan (locals) bring big things to this show and GM, Ford and DCX don't. I'm not saying that its why people here but imports more but every little point idea helps if the domestic brands want to curb the import tide in CA.

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Old 12-12-2005 | 09:25 PM
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Re: Camaro concept at LA auto show??

Originally Posted by Red Planet
Don't think for a minute that we don't know the importance of the West Coast market.

The problem is that LA schedules the show on top of NAIAS. NAIAS gets thousands of press peeps........thousands...whereas LA gets less than 100.

Now........LA organizers realize that and LA gets moved in November in 2006....(two shows....January.....then in November...then they stay in November from here on out)

I will post a schedule for the concept after January 9.
So LA still won't get any of the hot new cars first...? Wont they still be shown in Detriot first and then 10 months later be in LA? Or is LA going to start getting some of the "cool" new cars first? I just dont see the best cars being released 2 months before NAIAS... I can see LA still getting the shaft this way. But maybe not.
Old 12-14-2005 | 12:25 PM
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what aboot us canucks?
Eh?

Toronto isn't too far from Detroit ... the concept should make it up here . Remember, the '06 Z06 made it .
Old 12-14-2005 | 01:00 PM
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Eh?

Toronto isn't too far from Detroit ... the concept should make it up here . Remember, the '06 Z06 made it .
we get to see it twice.
Old 12-14-2005 | 10:50 PM
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ask me after January 9.
Old 12-14-2005 | 11:00 PM
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Re: Camaro concept at LA auto show??

Originally Posted by Red Planet
Don't think for a minute that we don't know the importance of the West Coast market.

The problem is that LA schedules the show on top of NAIAS. NAIAS gets thousands of press peeps........thousands...whereas LA gets less than 100.

Now........LA organizers realize that and LA gets moved in November in 2006....(two shows....January.....then in November...then they stay in November from here on out)

I will post a schedule for the concept after January 9.
Do you know roughly if it's the beginning, middle or end of November for the LA auto show? It would be nice if it was the beginning, that way it can be transported up to SF's Moscone Auto show, which usually is around Thanksgiving week.
Old 12-14-2005 | 11:36 PM
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When the LA show moves to November, it will be in the middle to end of the month. Giving lead time to Detroit. In my opinion, given the size of Cobo Hall, Chicago is going to be the premier debut event in February come next years shows.
Old 12-15-2005 | 12:44 AM
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ask me after January 9.
will you be around when it opens to the public?
Old 12-16-2005 | 03:44 PM
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Sooooo...if LA is getting 2 shows in '06 then will the concept be at the second show???
Old 12-17-2005 | 12:44 AM
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When the LA show moves to November, it will be in the middle to end of the month. Giving lead time to Detroit. In my opinion, given the size of Cobo Hall, Chicago is going to be the premier debut event in February come next years shows.
Well, I know that the city of Chicago would love that...and the state of Illinois, but I don't see that happening any time in the immediate future. There is a decided difference between the press attendance in Chicago versus Detroit. True, Cobo Hall is way too small. McCormick Place, on the other hand is so big that they can't fill it!
Old 12-17-2005 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Planet
Well, I know that the city of Chicago would love that...and the state of Illinois, but I don't see that happening any time in the immediate future. There is a decided difference between the press attendance in Chicago versus Detroit. True, Cobo Hall is way too small. McCormick Place, on the other hand is so big that they can't fill it!
Yeah, lets work on showing Chicago some more love!!! Lol, I know its nowhere near the same as detroit as far as press, but it is still a very large car market, and Chicago should get some good stuff also. Ive gone to the Chicago AutoShow every year since I was 10(which means ive only gone 11 years, lol, but hey, thats half my life!) and its always a great time, but GM just never seems to have the right feel to it, I can never put my finger on it, but it just never seems to work.
Old 12-17-2005 | 01:18 AM
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well.....it may interest you to know that the largest show GM does in terms of square feet is Chicago....by far. The average Chevy Exhibit in many shows is somewhere from 18,000 to 24,000 square feet. (smallest is just over 6,000 square feet in Davenport, IA show followed by Hartford at about 7,000 square feet)
In Chicago, it's over 54,000 square feet. I put more properties in Chicago than any other show...but when you drop them into 54,000 square feet, they appear to shrink.

Now...interestingly, we were given the mandate by GM senior management to bring the height of our displays down...very much like is done in Europe....up until this year, the max. height was 12 feet. (I got away with 14 foot high corner IDs.) GM was lauded by the Chicago press for making this decision. They talked about the fact that some manufacturers were literally causing 'valleys' and 'mountains' with huge architecture....very hard to maneuver while GM tends to make the cars the stars.

Is it the right thing to do? Well.....here's a fact that I'm most proud of: There are 65 major shows in the U.S. 23 of them have a 'best of show' or 'people's choice' award. Chevy won 13 of the 23 last year.

All that said. we're starting to 'grow' somewhat. For instance, at NAIAS and Chicago (and probably Atlanta) I will have a video screen that's 18 feet high and 28 feet across. (one heckofa TV!!)
Old 12-17-2005 | 01:20 AM
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oh...and for what it's worth.......everything shown at NAIAS by GM is always sent to Chicago. So we're showing all kinds of love!! Chevy has about 22,000 square feet in NAIAS....and as I said above, over 54,000 in Chicago.
Old 12-17-2005 | 02:09 AM
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Dont get me wrong, I didnt say that there wasnt enough at Chicago, cuz even though ive never been to another cities auto show, im sure they arent usally as big as Chicago, cuz like you said, McCormick Place is HUGE! But I think part of the problem has to do with the size, because GM in general is too spread out sometimes...

Another thing that PERSONALLY I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to see more of is engine displays, cutaways and the such. I love just walking up to an engine and being able to see it out of the car, for some reason that just seems cool to me. It also helps to see how some engines work, like the VW engines, like the W engines, it was cool to just see the insides and ACTUALLY see how it works.

Oh and a personal request, PLEASE have posters available!!! It makes my night when I can get a free car poster at the auto show! I distinctly remember some awesome Porcsche posters from a few years ago. Do this with like the Z06, CTS-V, STS-V, and any other cool looking cars...heck even the Camaro Concept



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