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Old 05-23-2008 | 06:35 PM
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Kevin, thanks for the great post.

I've got two concerns from what you've posted though.

This:

The interior, …I am 6’ 1”, …and there was PLENTY of leg room. I actually had to move the seat forward to comfortably push the clutch in.

And this:
Around back, ..the trunk, …it’s surprisingly huge

There are no free lunches, so to get all of that.... what sounds like, excess legroom, and huge trunk, is the 'ponycar' formula compromised? It sounds like you are describing a car more along the lines of a Monte Carlo, rather than a Camaro. That concerns me. Am I wrong in thinking that?

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Old 05-23-2008 | 07:34 PM
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I hope this: The back seat, …let’s face it, it’s fine for kids or car seats, …but not for someone 6’ tall. is not a bad as it sounds or that will be the end for me. We are in need of a 4 seater and I was hoping the new 5th gen would fit that bill. Oh Well I'll still wait to see for myself. Dang!
I was comfortable in the back seat, but I'm 5' tall, so take that for what it's worth. The person in the front seat was sitting comfortably and I had at least a couple of extra inches of leg room. A taller person might have a little more cramped experience.
As with just about any 2-door, 4-seater, short trips will probably be fine. A road trip in the back seat of just about any car is tough no matter how many doors are available!
Old 05-23-2008 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
Kevin, thanks for the great post.

I've got two concerns from what you've posted though.

This:

The interior, …I am 6’ 1”, …and there was PLENTY of leg room. I actually had to move the seat forward to comfortably push the clutch in.

And this:
Around back, ..the trunk, …it’s surprisingly huge

There are no free lunches, so to get all of that.... what sounds like, excess legroom, and huge trunk, is the 'ponycar' formula compromised? It sounds like you are describing a car more along the lines of a Monte Carlo, rather than a Camaro. That concerns me. Am I wrong in thinking that?
Yes, you're wrong. Read the parts about the space between the trunk and the front seats again.
Old 05-23-2008 | 08:17 PM
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HUD doesn't sound like its happening yet.

Lots of discussion on that. We'll definitely fill you in once we're free to speak.
Old 05-23-2008 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by KevinK
…as you move the seat back, …it seems to go lower a bit.
i hate that. i like to be close to the wheel and pedals but i find modern cars that do that make the driving position awful. my mustang did it as well as an audi S5 i sat in.

does the driving position feel like a 4th gen or more mustang?
Old 05-23-2008 | 11:05 PM
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does the driving position feel like a 4th gen
not at all. its an upright seating position.
Old 05-24-2008 | 12:26 AM
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lots of fluff. no new information??
Old 05-24-2008 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TrickStang37
lots of fluff. no new information??
dont expect ANY until vehicle launch
Old 05-24-2008 | 12:30 AM
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^^

That is the basic problem with after event reports, when the participants are under a strict NDA. I am not slamming them, nor am I criticizing GM. Bottom line is they can say nothing of substance, so all we are left with is "Great Car, great event, great people, thanks GM!"

Again, I understand they CANNOT say much more. Which is why, with all do respect to those who were lucky enough to go, these posts are pretty much worthless to everyone who wasn't there.
Old 05-24-2008 | 01:11 AM
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One thing I have not seen answered, let alone asked... And hopefully you'll be able to shed some light on it... Can you see the front of the hood...? I'm sure anyone who owns or has driven a 4th gen knows what I'm talking about...
Old 05-24-2008 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 91Z28350
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That is the basic problem with after event reports, when the participants are under a strict NDA. I am not slamming them, nor am I criticizing GM. Bottom line is they can say nothing of substance, so all we are left with is "Great Car, great event, great people, thanks GM!"

Again, I understand they CANNOT say much more. Which is why, with all do respect to those who were lucky enough to go, these posts are pretty much worthless to everyone who wasn't there.
It's a valid point. The other option is we say absolutely nothing, as is done with most focus groups.

We are "car" people, so if anything, it should make folks optimistic GM is about to put forth a vehicle that will readily compete for best in class.
Old 05-24-2008 | 01:10 PM
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Chris et al,

Like I said, I am not criticizing you guys (and gals), I am merely pointing out that alot of "nothing" has been said. In all honesty, I fully expected your reactions to be what they are. However, the real questions that will determine whether I buy this car or not cannot be answered until the actual specs are released.
Old 05-24-2008 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by KevinK
The interior, …I am 6’ 1”, …and there was PLENTY of leg room. I actually had to move the seat forward to comfortably push the clutch in. Headroom was fine too, …as you move the seat back, …it seems to go lower a bit.
Standing at 6'6" Ive been waiting to hear those words for years now!
Old 05-24-2008 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob V
One thing I have not seen answered, let alone asked... And hopefully you'll be able to shed some light on it... Can you see the front of the hood...? I'm sure anyone who owns or has driven a 4th gen knows what I'm talking about...
Yes you can. This is a big one for me because my wife hates driving the 4th gen but loves the Solstice, and a big part of that is seeing where the hood is going!
Old 05-24-2008 | 03:47 PM
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not at all. its an upright seating position.
This is a good thing. Hopefully ingress & egress are improved too. I hated "falling in" and "climbing out" of my 99 T/A, vice getting in and getting out of my 99 Cobra.

91Z28350....unfortunately, I concur. But sometimes we do get into some interesting conversations at the end of these things.



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