Camaro Summit #2, ...my impressions (long)
#32
Chris et al,
Like I said, I am not criticizing you guys (and gals), I am merely pointing out that alot of "nothing" has been said. In all honesty, I fully expected your reactions to be what they are. However, the real questions that will determine whether I buy this car or not cannot be answered until the actual specs are released.
Like I said, I am not criticizing you guys (and gals), I am merely pointing out that alot of "nothing" has been said. In all honesty, I fully expected your reactions to be what they are. However, the real questions that will determine whether I buy this car or not cannot be answered until the actual specs are released.
#33
Like I said, I am not criticizing you guys (and gals), I am merely pointing out that alot of "nothing" has been said. In all honesty, I fully expected your reactions to be what they are. However, the real questions that will determine whether I buy this car or not cannot be answered until the actual specs are released.
We are sorta doing whatever we can to give our best impression of things without leaking facts. It isn't easy, trust me.
It won't be long where everything is out there, and we will all find out what opinions we share.
#34
I hate it when "majority rules"!!!
I realize that part of the Mustang's sales success (and the 4th-gen's demise) is due, in part, to the "daily drivability" of the car. And I know that the Mustang has an "upright" seating position, while the Camaro had the "low slung" position (more Corvette-like, really).
Apparently "the people" prefer upright. I, myself, as well as 97z28/m6 obviously, much prefer the low slung feeling of the 4th-gen (well, that, and the 3rd-gens, 2nd-gens .....)
But I guess we'll have to learn to like it?
I realize that part of the Mustang's sales success (and the 4th-gen's demise) is due, in part, to the "daily drivability" of the car. And I know that the Mustang has an "upright" seating position, while the Camaro had the "low slung" position (more Corvette-like, really).
Apparently "the people" prefer upright. I, myself, as well as 97z28/m6 obviously, much prefer the low slung feeling of the 4th-gen (well, that, and the 3rd-gens, 2nd-gens .....)
But I guess we'll have to learn to like it?
#35
I hate it when "majority rules"!!!
I realize that part of the Mustang's sales success (and the 4th-gen's demise) is due, in part, to the "daily drivability" of the car. And I know that the Mustang has an "upright" seating position, while the Camaro had the "low slung" position (more Corvette-like, really).
Apparently "the people" prefer upright. I, myself, as well as 97z28/m6 obviously, much prefer the low slung feeling of the 4th-gen (well, that, and the 3rd-gens, 2nd-gens .....)
But I guess we'll have to learn to like it?
I realize that part of the Mustang's sales success (and the 4th-gen's demise) is due, in part, to the "daily drivability" of the car. And I know that the Mustang has an "upright" seating position, while the Camaro had the "low slung" position (more Corvette-like, really).
Apparently "the people" prefer upright. I, myself, as well as 97z28/m6 obviously, much prefer the low slung feeling of the 4th-gen (well, that, and the 3rd-gens, 2nd-gens .....)
But I guess we'll have to learn to like it?
#36
I want to feel like I'm sitting in the seat. I drove an '01 Mach 1, and it felt like I was sitting on the seat, much like it does in most non-performance-oriented cars.
In my Camaro, it feels like I'm in the seat.
Should I be worried?
#37
I kinda figured that the seating was more upright than the 4th Gens just by looking at the car and that it seemed to be a complaint made by all whom didn't like the 4th Gen. I on the other hand loved the Vette type low slung feel of the 4th Gen.
For those of us who liked the scapping butt feel of the 4th gen the only thing I can hope far in Gen 5 is that the car will sit lower than say the Mustang and Challenger.
For those of us who liked the scapping butt feel of the 4th gen the only thing I can hope far in Gen 5 is that the car will sit lower than say the Mustang and Challenger.
#38
...re: all this seating talk.
Indeed, ...there are personal preferences (that's obvious), and I also believe it's obvious GM made an effort to make the 5th gen easier to get in and out of.
I'll add here, ...I like the 'low slung' feel of my 4th gen, ...the seats aren't as supportive as I would like, ...but I wouldn't mind if it was a little easier to get in and out of the car.
With 'my' preferences stated, ...I really liked the feel of the 5th gen. The car was easier to get in/out of, ...the seats definitely did not feel too upright at all (it clearly felt you were sitting IN the seat, not on them) ...and the seats themselves were excellent (with adj. headrests).
I feel they 'tweaked' things just enough to make it a tad more upright, ...yet not take away from that 'cockpit' seat feel. I truely think most will be pleased with it...
Indeed, ...there are personal preferences (that's obvious), and I also believe it's obvious GM made an effort to make the 5th gen easier to get in and out of.
I'll add here, ...I like the 'low slung' feel of my 4th gen, ...the seats aren't as supportive as I would like, ...but I wouldn't mind if it was a little easier to get in and out of the car.
With 'my' preferences stated, ...I really liked the feel of the 5th gen. The car was easier to get in/out of, ...the seats definitely did not feel too upright at all (it clearly felt you were sitting IN the seat, not on them) ...and the seats themselves were excellent (with adj. headrests).
I feel they 'tweaked' things just enough to make it a tad more upright, ...yet not take away from that 'cockpit' seat feel. I truely think most will be pleased with it...
#39
Kevin, have you driven (or at least sat in) an '05+ Mustang? If so, how would you compare its seating position to the 5th-gen? I think that would be the most accurate comparison. If it's somewhere in between the Mustang feel, and the 4th-gen feel, at least that would be a "fair compromise"?
#40
I agree. I really liked the 4th gen seating position. I have sat in a few Mustangs (nothing recent) and wasn't used to how upright they felt and was uncomfortable. I am sure I would get used to it, but it wasn't like my 4th gen.
The new Camaro seemed to be a good compromise between the both. I would still prefer the 4th gen feel, but sacrificing some of the the "low-slung" style while making it easier to get in and out is a small price to pay. I felt pretty comfortable overall, I liked the seats for the most part.
The new Camaro seemed to be a good compromise between the both. I would still prefer the 4th gen feel, but sacrificing some of the the "low-slung" style while making it easier to get in and out is a small price to pay. I felt pretty comfortable overall, I liked the seats for the most part.
#43
I agree. I really liked the 4th gen seating position. I have sat in a few Mustangs (nothing recent) and wasn't used to how upright they felt and was uncomfortable. I am sure I would get used to it, but it wasn't like my 4th gen.
The new Camaro seemed to be a good compromise between the both. I would still prefer the 4th gen feel, but sacrificing some of the the "low-slung" style while making it easier to get in and out is a small price to pay. I felt pretty comfortable overall, I liked the seats for the most part.
The new Camaro seemed to be a good compromise between the both. I would still prefer the 4th gen feel, but sacrificing some of the the "low-slung" style while making it easier to get in and out is a small price to pay. I felt pretty comfortable overall, I liked the seats for the most part.
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