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Old 01-12-2006 | 02:09 AM
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Re: Can someone photochop the concept into a "production version"?

Originally Posted by OctaneZ28
That computes to the following tire heights:
Front: 27.5"
Rear: 29.2"

4th Gen tire height is 25.7"

Going with a "production-realistic" ~27.0" tire height, we could see:
Front: 275/40-18 (26.7")
Rear: 295/35-19 (27.1")
Just guessing.

good guessing. i think the base model will get the same size all the way around. probably the mid-level too. and it has to be an affordable size. this is a volume car after all.

the performance model seem to be the only that will get the stagered size rims.
Old 01-12-2006 | 02:51 AM
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Re: Can someone photochop the concept into a "production version"?

I'd rather they just do 17s or 18s with 275s all the way around, makes rotating tires easier or whatever. Why drive up costs by making one style wheel in two different sizes, would most people really be able to see the difference in 17s on front and 18s on the rear??

Honestly I think the wheels on the concept look TOO big, they kinda look funny. But if 17s or 18s leaves the wheel openings looking like a 4x4 or something that won't work either...

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Old 01-12-2006 | 03:00 AM
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Re: Can someone photochop the concept into a "production version"?

Originally Posted by kick Z tail out
17" wheels are going to be teh vomit on this car.


With 21/22s on the concept, this thing is going to need to come with at least 19s to make it *look* right.
lutz said 19's and 20's on the rear...
Old 01-12-2006 | 10:30 AM
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Re: Can someone photochop the concept into a "production version"?

I too, would rather have a standard size for all 4 corners. There's no way you can do a proper rotation with different sized wheels.
Old 01-12-2006 | 10:41 AM
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Re: Can someone photochop the concept into a "production version"?

Originally Posted by kick Z tail out
17" wheels are going to be teh vomit on this car.


With 21/22s on the concept, this thing is going to need to come with at least 19s to make it *look* right.
18s might work, or 18/19 f/r. Just as a reference point, the '05 Mustang concept was shown with 20s. The production car has 16s (V6), 17s/18s (GT), and 18s (GT500).

I'd bet a V6 Camaro would have 17s standard, though I wouldn't bet a lot. We are still talking a couple years from now. Hell, even the much smaller Solstice has 18s standard.

I will say that the current 21/22 combo is TOO big on the car. Vette looks good on 18/19s. I could see 18s, 18/19 with 19s, or 19/20 on the bad boy versions of the Camaro.
Old 01-12-2006 | 10:43 AM
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Re: Can someone photochop the concept into a "production version"?

What if they just tightened up the wheel well? :dunno:
Old 01-12-2006 | 10:47 AM
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Re: Can someone photochop the concept into a "production version"?

Originally Posted by RhinoSS
I too, would rather have a standard size for all 4 corners. There's no way you can do a proper rotation with different sized wheels.
I think I agree. That would mean the fronts have to be as wide as the rears, though. Which is fine by me (at least I love the look of my 275s front and rear). Vettes have been staggered in both diameter and width for years and years now, but Vette owners tend to have more money. Which brings me to my next point...

I hope the cost of big tires drops as they become more prevalent (like computers drop in price as the newer, higher performance ones come out). I'd rather not have to shell out $350 bucks for rear tires that fit 22" (or 18") wheels.

Speaking again of those 22s: The new ESCALADE has 22s as an option (18s standard), and the Escalade is just a bit bigger and taller than the Camaro.
Old 01-12-2006 | 11:41 AM
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Re: Can someone photochop the concept into a "production version"?

Since the Cobalt SS comes with 18" wheels I'm thinking that the standard size would be 16" and then 18" with optional 19" chrome rims for more flash. The 18s would probably be lighter alloy wheels.
Old 01-12-2006 | 11:46 AM
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As much as I hate to admit it, the way the wheelwell opening are designed, it does look much better with staggered wheels, I wouldn't be surprised if that feature made it into production. At this point I think it'd be a 18/19 split, but based entirely on speculation.
Old 01-12-2006 | 12:26 PM
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Re: Can someone photochop the concept into a "production version"?

Well, a 275/45/17 measures out to 26.7", same as the 275/40/18's? Yeah, the profile is going to crap, but figure that 4th-gens came with 245/50/16's .

Honestly, look at some Mustangs ... (in particular, V6's) ... the wheels look way too small for the car, but there are still tons of them out there . Taller (sidewall) tires will provide a softer ride too . For us crazy "enthusiasts", we'll take the low profile tires and suffer a harsher ride . I think that 18's/19's (like the C6) is the biggest that could go on a production car that they want to mass produce and sell in large quantity . Probably a set of 18's all around would be a fair compromise??
Old 01-12-2006 | 08:27 PM
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Re: Can someone photochop the concept into a "production version"?


For some reason Photobucket downsizes my images.
18" front rim.
19" back rim.
-3" rear bumper.
-1" front bumper.
-5" wheel base.
Those are abouts.
If some one wants to host the fullsize pic, I can email it to you.

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Old 01-12-2006 | 09:59 PM
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Re: Can someone photochop the concept into a "production version"?

Photobucket has a size limit per pic, and automatically resizes if you upload one above it.
Old 01-12-2006 | 10:36 PM
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Re: Can someone photochop the concept into a "production version"?

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Old 01-12-2006 | 10:56 PM
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Re: Can someone photochop the concept into a "production version"?

Originally Posted by 3rdGenNut

For some reason Photobucket downsizes my images.
18" front rim.
19" back rim.
-3" rear bumper.
-1" front bumper.
-5" wheel base.
Those are abouts.
If some one wants to host the fullsize pic, I can email it to you.
I think you're probably going to have to go further out with the bumpers... further than the concept even. That is one of the most commonly changed thing on concepts. To meet low impact crash standards they increase the size of the bumpers for a larger area to absorb the impact.
Old 01-12-2006 | 10:59 PM
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Re: Can someone photochop the concept into a "production version"?

I don't know if any of you have been keeping up with a popular topic in this forum or not, but I'm one of the five or so many guys totally disgusted with this new concept. Most of us who are disappointed with it are hardcore 3rd or 4th gen fans, and don't like the idea of the Camaro turning (back) into something that has such common proportions. Therefore, I have created what I would like the production car to look like. I have actually fallen in love with my revision, I would almost definitely buy a car that looked like this. The actual concept is too short and looks too much like a 300C/Magnum/Charger/BMW/Volvo in size, so I have transformed the car into a tasteful sports car. I don't know if you will all agree, but I believe this looks a LOT better and more "Camaro" (as defined by the proportions of the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gens) looking as well.

I'm sure you hardcore 1st gen fans might hate it, but I don't care, this was my way of making a lemon into lemonade. (look after pic for a short mod list) If anyone would like to see the high-res version (3000 pixels wide) let me know.

-revised things to be closer to production size, including the blinkers, side mirror, wheels, and headlights
-extended the front end 3 to 4 inches longer than stock
-decreased the front bumper's height by chopping a portion out of the middle
-decreased the height of the side running board (whatchamacallit) and rear bumper
-got rid of the silly vents
-improved the grill and increased its size
-added a nice spoiler
-made the headlights appear to be xenon bulbs rather than LED bulbs
-lowered the car to a more 3rd gen height
-changed the door "swoop" to look more sexy rather than the way it looked "cadillacky"
-black windshield wipers because body colored ones would never make it into production
-other stuff I can't remember off the top of my head



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