I thought pert of the reason the camaro was gone for so long and that it couldn't be talked about was because of the Canadian agreement that it would have to be built there. Now they may build it there anyway and all of this waiting was for not?

 

Geez, I say if the Camaro isn't built in the U.S. it shouldn't be built at all. Damn the Camaro! My patriotism comes first!

 

Well to bad because I am going to win it.







Hey this thread turned to crap before I posted so don't blame me for this mods.

 

My first, second, and third posts were not addressed to you nor was your user name EVER mentioned. That's right... go back and read them. For some reason you chose to address me directly and started snivelling in your post numbered 221..... While we're sarcastically insulting people's intelligence... Did you even attend college? Could you have spelled engineering without it being in my sig?......What do you expect with a toss like that? I suggest you get over it an STFU.

 

huh?

 

realistically, why does it matter where it's built? I'd rather pay $5k less for it because it was built using $1/hour laborers in a West African country rather than $5k more because it was built by $45/hour U.S. labor unions, whom later decide the $45/hour is not enough to pay the person that puts air in the tires, so they go on strike for a month. As long as the quality remains, I don't see why it matters.

 

Unfortunately, this is the attitude of a large portion of Americans (Last I checked, Americans still meant people from the USA, not Canada, not Mexico or any other country in the "America's") but anyway, This type of attitude will be the downfall of us all. None of us will have the $$ to afford anything if we keep shipping all our jobs out of the country.

Anyhow, I'd just like to see some jobs stay in the USA. If it gets built in Canada thats not really all that bad, much better than other alternatives.

 

I couldn't disagree with you more! FineWine was exactly right with what he said. You say, "This type of attitude will be the downfall of us all." WRONG! Are you a member of an Auto Union? However, FineWine's statement, "because it was built by $45/hour U.S. labor unions, whom later decide the $45/hour is not enough to pay the person that puts air in the tires, so they go on strike for a month" is right on the money!

It isn't our attitudes, it's the labor unions. They price themselves right out of jobs. It is their fault, not our attitudes. There was a time and place for unions, back with laborers weren't treated fairly, but that time has come and gone. Too bad we can't have some non Union labor build cars in America. That's just my .02.

 

What's wrong with making $45.00 per hour building cars? How else can you expect to make the payments on a new $40,000 car? Working at Wal-Mart?

 

I assume this was a sarcastic remark, but just incase....If you can't afford a $40k car, you don't buy one, period. I don't see what this has to do with anything.

I have a great job making good money, if I ever said "hey boss, pay me more just because I can't afford a $40k car!" I would expect to be slapped.

 

I agree with everything said here, and add on the fact that american's have the revese attitude of the people they claim are "stealing" their jobs. Most American's believe it's their right to have a job, and that it's their job when in fact none of this is true.


but I digress in interest of keeping this thread on topic.


What are the advantages for GM (which should be the only concern anyway) of building it in the US?

 

No, I am not a auto worker. Just an enthusiast who would like to see some jobs stay in the USA.

 

I definetly agree with that. I would like to see some jobs stay in the USA as well, just not union jobs. It is the unions that are unfair to our beloved GM, as well as Ford and others. It is greatly their fault that our domestics can't compete with the likes of Toyota, Honda, Nissan, and watch out. . . here comes Hyundai.

I'm all for US jobs, and a would be more than happy to buy a US built Camaro. I don't prefer a foriegn built car. However, I do prefer to pay as little for the car as I have to, and if that means using free market competetive labor, than so be it.

I know what you're trying to say, and to a point I agree with you. I want more US jobs, and would prefer an "All American" Camaro. What I don't agree with is that it is mine or anyone else's attitude that is the problem. To desire a competetive and resonably priced product, over an inflated union priced product is not the problem. Plain and simple. Don't blame the cash strapped Americans who are trying to provide for a family, pay a mortgage, etc. . . Blame the unions that cause GM, Ford, and others so many problems with their rediculous demands.

 

Well Said.

 

Guess I noobed it... In my defense, you did post directly under me, so I assumed it was directed towards me. Sorry for the bull crap.

Continuing back with the thread, I too would like to see US auto jobs stay in the US.