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Old 02-16-2006 | 09:19 PM
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Challenger given Green Light

This might be old news, but I just found this. . .

http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger.html

The Challenger was given the go-ahead on Feb. 9th. Hopefully GM will follow suit and quickly give us a publicly announced Green Light! Please don't flame me. . . I know the Camaro WILL be produced, but getting the official go-ahead will be nice! I'm hoping that this Challenger announcement so soon after debuting the concept to much less attention than the Camaro will expedite GM's formal announcement!
Old 02-16-2006 | 09:29 PM
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Is there anybody here who really thinks the Camaro has NOT been given the green light?

Smoke and mirrors.
Old 02-16-2006 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
Is there anybody here who really thinks the Camaro has NOT been given the green light?

Smoke and mirrors.
I already stated that I know the camaro WILL be produced, and I do think that the Camaro hasn't been given an OFFICIAL PUBLIC green light from GM.

I didn't start this thread to be flamed, I started it, because I thought it was intersting that the challenger was given an OFFICIAL green light so soon after it's debut. I'm hoping the same from GM. I understand that it's going to be produced. . .Scott and Guy have made that pretty clear, as if all the attention it was getting wasn't enough.
Old 02-17-2006 | 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Camaro25thann
I started it, because I thought it was intersting that the challenger was given an OFFICIAL green light so soon after it's debut. I'm hoping the same from GM.
While I think both cars will be produced, I wouldn't refer to a one line sentence at allpar.com as an "OFFICIAL" green light.
Old 02-17-2006 | 07:36 AM
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I think everyone knows its going to be and on a much faster track than the soltice was by far.
Old 02-17-2006 | 07:54 AM
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I think everyone knows its going to be and on a much faster track than the soltice was by far.
I certainly hope it's on a faster track than soltice, because that edmunds report saying MY2010 is depressing. I know Scott and Guy have said that edmunds is dead wrong, and I believe them, but I still don't like seeing reports that tell me I'm going to have to wait longer for my dream car.
Old 02-17-2006 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Camaro25thann
I certainly hope it's on a faster track than soltice, because that edmunds report saying MY2010 is depressing. I know Scott and Guy have said that edmunds is dead wrong, and I believe them, but I still don't like seeing reports that tell me I'm going to have to wait longer for my dream car.
Dont sweat it man. Stay tuned to this site and you'll get the play by play over the time it takes for the Camaro to go into production. The auto press is wrong most of the time when it comes to talking about future models. I believe Motortrend was the one that printed a couple months ago saying Camaro was dead in the water.
Old 02-17-2006 | 08:03 AM
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I believe Motortrend was the one that printed a couple months ago saying Camaro was dead in the water.
Very good point! And now it's on the cover of their mag.
Old 02-17-2006 | 08:05 AM
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Very good point! And now it's on the cover of their mag.
Exactly! Like I said, this site is the best source Ive found and Ive been here for a long time
Old 02-17-2006 | 08:19 AM
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All the mags want is to sell copies what they have to say is all hear-say for the most part alot of the time and they just need something in print
Old 02-17-2006 | 09:16 AM
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I think we're their #1 source
Old 02-17-2006 | 11:18 AM
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On the one hand, I have little doubt that GM is going to produce a fifth-generation Camaro…on the other hand, I’ve learned, especially where the automotive industry is concerned, not to count on anything too much until it happens.

As I was reading the original post, a question came to mind…maybe it’s already been answered/discussed before and if so, I apologize for covering old ground…by my question, should anyone like to answer, is this…

“What has changed at GM that makes a fifth-generation viable when it obviously wasn’t considered viable before?

What I mean is, a fifth-generation apparently wasn’t considered viable when the decision was made to pull the plug with the 2002 model year so what has changed to the extent that it’s worth GMs resources to bring it back now?

Is it simply a change of who is making the decisions?

Is it just a matter of pride; that GM simply does not like getting killed by Mustang sales - seeing Ford able to sell their pony car when GM couldn’t?

Although I know there are some true “car” guys (and girls) at GM who truly love the Camaro and want it back, I know that those folks alone, are simply not enough to get the vehicle produced.

So what has changed?
Old 02-17-2006 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert_Nashville
“What has changed at GM that makes a fifth-generation viable when it obviously wasn’t considered viable before?

What I mean is, a fifth-generation apparently wasn’t considered viable when the decision was made to pull the plug with the 2002 model year so what has changed to the extent that it’s worth GMs resources to bring it back now?

Is it simply a change of who is making the decisions?

Is it just a matter of pride; that GM simply does not like getting killed by Mustang sales - seeing Ford able to sell their pony car when GM couldn’t?

Although I know there are some true “car” guys (and girls) at GM who truly love the Camaro and want it back, I know that those folks alone, are simply not enough to get the vehicle produced.

So what has changed?
I think it can be summed up as follows:

1. the new car will share a global architecture. The old car had a decidated chassis
2. The new car will be built at a plant along side other cars, the old car was severely underutilizing an old outdated plant
3. The new car will overcome some of the ergonmic deficiencies of the old car
4. Yes I think management has much to do with it and the people that decided to pull the plug on Camaro the last time aren't here anymore. These are the same folks that IMO created the appearnce of non-viability by pulling advertising and budget from the car in 1997.

5. To say a 5th gen wasn't viable in 2002...well, I don't want to re-hash the CAW contract issues but suffice to say the 5th gen business case probably didn't make sense if it included staying at St. Therese. Those restraints are now gone.

All of these factors make the car very viable. The fact that Ford is kicking their butts in the coupe market only adds salt to the wounds.
Old 02-17-2006 | 12:46 PM
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My neighbor claimed that he saw a T.V. ad for the Challenger already. I don't believe him. He talks your ear off and won't let you leave, I think he jsut makes stuff up so he can talk.
Old 02-17-2006 | 03:44 PM
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ls2.com is also a good source...



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