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Old 10-14-2006 | 11:48 PM
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The Competition

So, other than the mustang, what will the camaro be up against?

I have heard a mention of a challanger, does any one have any links?
Old 10-15-2006 | 12:01 AM
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this topic has been discussed to death already. use the search
Old 10-15-2006 | 12:08 AM
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this topic has been discussed to death already. use the search
Oh, I'm sorry. I am new here and was un-aware that there was one. I see it now, thank you.
Old 10-15-2006 | 09:37 AM
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Yes, there is a 2008 Challenger on the way:

Old 10-15-2006 | 09:56 AM
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The 350Z, G35, BMW coupes... They should all be pushing over 300hp by the time the Camaro is released.
Old 10-15-2006 | 11:01 AM
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The 350Z, G35, BMW coupes... They should all be pushing over 300hp by the time the Camaro is released.
Competition? The way I see it, there just isn't any!

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Old 10-16-2006 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve0
The 350Z, G35, BMW coupes... They should all be pushing over 300hp by the time the Camaro is released.

and they would still be looking at a 98 LS1 tail lights.... and that time would be... uh? 2008? so ten years later.. they still looking at a 98 ls1 taillights...

I am loving it...
Old 10-16-2006 | 04:07 PM
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well, since this thread went on anyway, i saw pictures i motor trend (i know) of a supercharged 350z making 380hp. i think it was intended for the sema show as a thinly vieled concept
Old 10-16-2006 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jcamere94z28
and they would still be looking at a 98 LS1 tail lights.... and that time would be... uh? 2008? so ten years later.. they still looking at a 98 ls1 taillights...I am loving it...
I really hate to be controversial here, but…

I’m not sure what you are basing your boast on but a quick search resulted in the following…

2003 350Z 0-60 in 5.4 sec and ¼ mile in 14.1 @ 101.0 MPH
2002 Camaro Z/28 0-60 in 5.5 sec and, ¼ mile in 14.0 @ 101.3 MPH
2002 Camaro SS 0-60 in 5.3 sec and ¼ mile in 13.7 @ 105.6 MPH

Now, people can argue about a tenth of a second here and a mile-per-hour there but most published performance testing on the 350Z and the Z28/SS show that the 305Z was certainly on par with the Z/28 and SS. Also, on a purely personal note, since I’ve owned a 2000 Z/28 and a 2004 350Z and have autocrossed and hot-lapped both I can attest that the Z gets around both the autocross course and the track faster than my Z/28 did.

By the end of 2008; the next Z will be out and (it is at least rumored) that it will be in the area of 400HP so performance should be on par with the next Camaro - of course, since neither car is in production yet; who knows how they’ll stack up then.

Now, whether the Z or the G35 are aimed at the same market as the Camaro/Mustang/Challenger is a matter of opinion but I say no, they aren’t…I’m sure some buyers will cross-shop but I suspect you would find that the typical Camaro buyer has different demographics than the typical Z or G35 buyer.
Old 10-16-2006 | 06:36 PM
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Ummm guys the "market" for the Camaro wont be based on 1/4 mile times or HP #s alone......


Marketing has a lil more to it then stuff like that
Old 10-16-2006 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert_Nashville
I really hate to be controversial here, but…

I’m not sure what you are basing your boast on but a quick search resulted in the following…

2003 350Z 0-60 in 5.4 sec and ¼ mile in 14.1 @ 101.0 MPH
2002 Camaro Z/28 0-60 in 5.5 sec and, ¼ mile in 14.0 @ 101.3 MPH
2002 Camaro SS 0-60 in 5.3 sec and ¼ mile in 13.7 @ 105.6 MPH
You actually believe the import biased car rags?
Old 10-16-2006 | 07:01 PM
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i wouldnt say a car like the 350Z is even in the same class.. it's a 2 seater, more akin to competing with the Corvette (but it doesnt even come close IMO)
Old 10-16-2006 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 01sunsetz28
You actually believe the import biased car rags?
Aside from the fact that I've owned AND competed in both cars, the numbes I cited are not from "import biased car rags" (which for you is probably any publication that doesn't say what you want it to say) - show me any reputable third-party testing organization that gives significantly different results.
Old 10-16-2006 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert_Nashville
Aside from the fact that I've owned AND competed in both cars, the numbes I cited are not from "import biased car rags" (which for you is probably any publication that doesn't say what you want it to say) - show me any reputable third-party testing organization that gives significantly different results.
If you've owned both cars how the heck can you compare the 350z to an ls1 camaro. I've seen pretty much stock ls1 camaro's go low 13's stock and yes there is that rare example that will reach the high 12's on the perfect day with a low d/a. Now how can you compare that with a 14 second 350z. Come on how bout this I will find a stock ls1 camaro and you find a stock 350z and we'll race and see who wins............
Old 10-16-2006 | 09:45 PM
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Hi guys. Im new here. So far, all I've seen are posts about hp, 1/4 mile stats and other testosterone inducing stuff. Im sure the camaro (past and future) does not lack in this dept. but how about handling? One of the reasons why your so called "rice cars" have been beating GM and Ford is that they handle quite well. Nissan Skyline, 350Z and other import cars can go very fast, yet handle very well at corners. Whereas most "muscle cars" can only go fast when going straight. I believe this is an important thing for GM to consider. HP is useless if you cant steer the car. I really want a camaro but I want it to handle well. There are lots of competition that has both power and handling and these I think are the camaro's fiercest competition.



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