Hey STEEL,

You posted "Oh, is that what they are doing? Beating a dead horse? I thought it was a dead 350z..."

No, it's the Camaro, until 09

 

This needs to be the Podcast Thread of the Week.

 

NOW IT MAKES SENCE!

 

 

lol...... and yet it still doesn't...

 

to the arguement of 350z and ls1's. no comparison my stock lt1 would send 350z's packin. i was into street racin for alot of years in glen burnie md. i stood no chance to a stock ls1, hated it but always got spanked. after adding long tube headers, drag radials a cold air intake, i could run with stock ls1's. the long tubes really opened up the third gear which was murder on a lt1 and heaven on an ls1. i went to a 13.4 @ 103. it may handle well but the 350z wouldnt come close in the 1/4. now with that being said i heard and im not a gm engineer but as everything we know of the new camaro is speculation until its out, i heard they will be irs. they want it to handle to keep with that market. so gm knows they need to handle better and that only appealing to the enthusiast wont sell enough. i however wish that would be an option as i dont like irs and prefer a solid axle for drag racing. with all that said i had an lt1 busted 350z's all the time and i wasnt comparable to a stock ls1.

 

I have seen both race at the track and it's not even close going head to head maybe a 350z with a supercharger or something at 7lbs of boost can run high 12's with drag radials. It might run with the 2004 or 05 gto the one with 350 horsepower because to me it's a slow car. And at the track I saw it do like 14.3 or so.

 

Give it a rest...

Several days ago I asked for someone to actually post a time slip for a provable stock LS1 F-body to support the ET's being claimed and no one has even tried.

It's one thing to say they consistently do low 13's and high 12's but no one has posted the evidence to prove it - the two links to time slips I posted a couple of pages ago was the fastest F-body listed as being stock and a stock 350Z was all of a 1/2 second slower.

A stock LS1 F-body probably is a couple of ticks faster than a Z in the 1/4 on a consistent basis but that was never the point in the first place.

 

Good lord, this is an old thread, but, as a former Mustang owner myself, stop shooting yourself in the head.
A LS1 bone stock in good weather with a good driver CAN run a high 12......the same with a Zcar can run what a stock GT can....high 13's.
Stop being a tar tar.
New Z car bas model will in my prediction beat a GT, and all other's.
The GT from the rumor's I hear will be 350HP by 2009......and the High end Z28 being 450..so my guess is the low end will be 400.........or GM is playing a losing game.
Again though..........no, your 350Z isn't running shiat against a 5 year old DEAD Camaro....it's running neck and neck with the old GT's and losing to the new ones........which will be smacked (imo) by the new real Z cars......the Camaro.
Bring it on GM.......I want one.

 

lol

 

That's just

 

Where’s the evidence? I keep hearing lots and lots of opinions and boasts but that’s all.

 

Oh my Gawd, I cant believe the BS floating around in here.

A stock 350Z will get spanked by an LS1 auto OR stick...bone stock.

The LT1 Z28 or SS is a much better comparison for it.

AutoXing yes they are close though, no denying that.

Robert: if your LS1 didnt dyno near 290rwhp then you bought a turd or dogged the crap out of it/didnt take care of it

Mine put down 326rwhp bone stock with about 12K(?) miles on it. Almost the exact same for the 10+ people I know with LS1s...and more than half of them ran low 13s, with the rest running around 13.4-13.6. I've never seen an LS1 run a 14 sec pass without missing a shift or losing traction.

BTW .5 secs in the 1/4 is a big difference. At 100+ MPH you can travel pretty far in .5 seconds.

BTW I think the 350Z is worth every penny, but not for me...just so you know.

 

Dude read GM High Tech Performance, and MM&FF it's been proven for years. Search their site, you'll probably find it. Plus I've personally seen quite a few run high 12s BONE stock. Seeing an LS1 running a low 13 second pass is like seeing a toaster toast some toast...its pretty much a given save for a power outtage or something

 

No one has bothered to post up "evidence" because it is such common knowledge how they perform that this thread is completely ridiculous.

Here's a 13.5 from a auto convertable and a 13.13 from a auto hardtop (different day I think): http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...ro_ss_feature/

That one also mentions the 12.89 Evan Smith got from a stock Z28, they also ran a 01 I think it was SS to a 12.9 in slightly worse conditions.
Ah, this snippet (from a mustang mag) mentions that one: http://www.stangbangers.com/01Bullitt_Article2c.jpg

Here is one where Popular Mechanics only managed a 13.4 w/ a SS, but got a WS6 (same darn car) to a 13.1, apparently all in the launch: http://www.popularmechanics.com/auto...6.html?page=11

I have a HotRod article around here somewhere on a 98 Z28 test I can scan if I can find it again, they ran a 13.3.

Go to LS1tech.com and search for stock quarter times, you'll find ALOT of people running low/mid 13s and a few in the 12s stock, those that run closer to mid 13s usually do so w/ a less than stellar 60 foot time. (their search seems to be broken at the moment or I'd link to one of the stock times threads I seem to recall seeing)

Of course I think it's silly to say all LS1s run 12.89s just from some article, but low 13s are definitely what they should run in good conditions w/ a good driver. A 350Z in the same conditions will not touch that, they will be something like a half second+ slower, they are a average high 13/low 14 second car... A half second (and an average of several MPH) beating in the quarter mile is a straight up beat down. The 350Z in the same condtions w/ an equal driver in each does not contend w/ a LS1 in the straight line. More like an LT1.

I'm not spending more than the 5 minutes searching it took to find these to prove this crap to someone who is a self-proclaimed expert on LS1 performance, yet is somehow shocked by the near everyday occurence of stock low 13s. You want more you find it yourself. Or you could just bury your head in another motortrend and continue on w/ the 14.0 1/4 mile BS.