Okay. Thanks, I didn't know that.

 

I think a major reason people are upset is while you are right adjusted for inflation the price is in line with 2002. But what your forget to add is the average Joe like me and many others have not had our wages increase to keep up with inflation at 3% per year. I am actually taking home less per week than 6 years ago if you factor in insurance, gas prices, food etc.

 

I understand the frustration with the pricing being as high as it is. I really feel GM will once again be out pricing its target market and sell at a distant second to Mustang.

Your correct in assuming the inflation changes from 2002 to 2008; however you are not factoring in the change in household incomes.

According to the Census Bureau household incomes in 2003 were $45,324 and in 2007 $50,233 resulting in a overall increase of 10.3%. The change in prices of a base V8 Camaro from 2002 at $22,800 and the new base V8 Camaro at $30,992 is an increase of 35.92%. This is quite a difference in price relative to average household purchasing power.

Add these facts on top of a currently bleak economic outlook, the Camaro looks even less appealing; especially considering its sacrifices in functionality.

At the current price structure I predict the Camaro to be a success but not anything that will greatly improve GM's profitability. The fact that it is not close to the Mustang in strictly price will be a large factor in the Camaros insignificance from a pure business standpoint.

 

http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/pdf/...ifications.pdf

did they just add the pricing and options stuff to that or am i just crazy?

 

You're not crazy. There were no "base" prices across the top column yesterday.

 

This is a good point and could be justified with wage statistics. A lot of people make less money in real terms than they did 10 years ago.

These prices are right along what I expected -- very competitive with everything except a stripper Mustang. The tough part will be the economic conditions.

Also for those saying it's a little too expensive, GM has a tenancy to run "loyalty" rebates and "new owner" rebates, so just about everyone should qualify for 1-2K off the sticker through some program.

 

I wish they give a 5k loyalty for owning a 4th gen.

 

The base SS and the stereo is enough for me. The rest are just $$$ frills

 

Heh, since two thousand and three.

Anyways,

The real question is if Ford drops the 400hp bomb in a mass neutral, or slightly heavier Mustang and it edges out the SS in straight line performance, will GM drop say a 450-475hp Bomb on Ford's door. Will Ford respond with a 425hp 5.0 and will GM retort with a 500hp SS??????!!!!!!

If GM drops a 550hp Z/28 on the GT500 will Ford drop a 600hp GT500 on the Z/28 and will GM retort with a 800hp Z/28?????!!!!!!

Inquiring minds want to know!

 

The more I thought about it during the day, the more I feel the car is overpriced.
A fully loaded SS coupe should have come in for about $30-33K. A fully loaded SS vert should come in at 35-38K, not the $40-42K that it will be. And then add HUD and park assist that is coming and the price will go up further. Plus they will keep raising the price 1-2 times per year.
So by 2012-2013, a fully loaded SS vert will probably run around $45K. WOW!!!
Car companies should not price vehicles with respect to the previous model or year, but instead by what their target demographic makes in wages.

While I could afford a $40-45K car, I don't think I can justify it. I may have to buy used, but any difference in price will be wiped out by the difference in the interest rate between new & used cars.

 

Jeez, I really hope they dont have to discount the F5, that doesn't bode well for the future.

 

I'm not so sure about that....I think it's more of a 50/50 split. We need a poll to find out.

I hate to jump on the fail boat wagon, but I am predicting that this thing will last about as long as the "GTO".

Prices were a little lower than I expected......doesn't matter to me though.... I will not be purchasing one.

When thinking about it....I think GM is trying to target the baby boomers who want to try and recapture the "old" days(while GM rakes in their life's savings). In doing so, they have totally forgot what this car is supposed to be.....a decently priced V8 performance car that the average Joe/Jane can afford.

 

Used C5 with a freshened up, cam/heads LS1.....LS6 even. How can you not even consider it?????? The Corvette is a step up from the Camaro.....the only reason you didn't do this with a C4 is because of the L98. The LT1 in the 4th gen spanked it(stock for stock). If you're a guy/girl looking for performance and want something that can do it in comfort.....a used C5 is it. If you need a back seat....not so much so...

The only way not to consider a Vette, to the new Camaro, is if you need a back seat or are just a blinded Camaro fanatic. That, sadly enough, is not going to keep this car going. The Camaro team should have taken a page from the Corvette team.....they saved the Vette from the ax and have boosted Vette sales doing it.

In the new car arena, with the economy these days, I'm sure the Mustang will more than compete with the new 5th gen....I'm more than confidant about that.....

I really think this is a swing and miss by GM.

Of course, the future is not written......I hope I'm dead wrong on all of this......but to me it does not look good.

 

Of course this is all your personal opinion

I've got a 2006 Corvette Coupe and I can't wait to get rid of it for the 2010 Camaro SS!

 

maybe I will be lucky enough to find a good 2010 1/2SS that's leftover and the dealers needs to move for 2011.