COMPLETE 2010 Camaro Pricing - with OPTIONS!
10-13-2008 | 10:10 AM
#76
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Well said Purple 92 SS. While it's true that there are A LOT of people that can and will pay those prices, the Camaro was and always should be an ENTRY LEVEL musclecar. Talk to anyone that wanted a 98-02 Z28 or SS, and they will tell you that they didn't get it simply because of the price. I understand that the pricing on this is the same if not cheaper than it was then, but it is definitely removed from the entry level status at that price.
10-13-2008 | 10:13 AM
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it's not a matter of being stuck in 1995 for pricing for me, its a matter of income versus cost.
I personally do not make that much, in my job, and nor does my wife. We are a dual income family, and I work for a Major University in my state, and she works as a neonatal nurse tech /secretary at a major hospital here in our state. Together, our income annually, is around 50k gross. We own our own home, and have normal bills, with NO outstanding car notes, and NO credit card bills. Annually after taxes and everything else our income nets us around 28800 a year. On that income level, we honestly cannot justify buying a 32000.00 car, much less the 40k convertible we'd want. I say this because while we could get approved for the car, credit wise, a 500.00 a month car payment is not something that is do-able. I largely blame the fact that the amount of income myself, and many other Americans make, hasn't really increased since oh, 1982ish, versus what things cost us.
I have took the time to explain all this because i feel that a larger majority of Americans that will want this car will be in the same boat. Yes, many may "downgrade" to a v6, but I've done that in the past, and just ended up making that car a v8, so i know better now to not buy a car without the options i want to begin with.
If I cant get my v8 Camaro convertible at a payment level below 300.00 a month, it just wont happen. I hate to say it but that's life... I refuse to put myself in a financial bind for a car, or anything else for that matter.. and in the current market / economic atmosphere, many Americans need to ensure they don't do just that as well. After all having them do that is some of what got us into this economic mess to begin with.
Now, I realize that we are lucky to have the car back, and I realize we are lucky to have such a great car at the prices listed, but yet, what i've listed above, is prime example as to why many will complain about the price of the v8 car.
Sorry for the soapbox, but i felt like writing, and trying to explain why some folks like me, will be forced to wait to get one used, or not at all until they are more affordable for us.
I personally do not make that much, in my job, and nor does my wife. We are a dual income family, and I work for a Major University in my state, and she works as a neonatal nurse tech /secretary at a major hospital here in our state. Together, our income annually, is around 50k gross. We own our own home, and have normal bills, with NO outstanding car notes, and NO credit card bills. Annually after taxes and everything else our income nets us around 28800 a year. On that income level, we honestly cannot justify buying a 32000.00 car, much less the 40k convertible we'd want. I say this because while we could get approved for the car, credit wise, a 500.00 a month car payment is not something that is do-able. I largely blame the fact that the amount of income myself, and many other Americans make, hasn't really increased since oh, 1982ish, versus what things cost us.
I have took the time to explain all this because i feel that a larger majority of Americans that will want this car will be in the same boat. Yes, many may "downgrade" to a v6, but I've done that in the past, and just ended up making that car a v8, so i know better now to not buy a car without the options i want to begin with.
If I cant get my v8 Camaro convertible at a payment level below 300.00 a month, it just wont happen. I hate to say it but that's life... I refuse to put myself in a financial bind for a car, or anything else for that matter.. and in the current market / economic atmosphere, many Americans need to ensure they don't do just that as well. After all having them do that is some of what got us into this economic mess to begin with.
Now, I realize that we are lucky to have the car back, and I realize we are lucky to have such a great car at the prices listed, but yet, what i've listed above, is prime example as to why many will complain about the price of the v8 car.
Sorry for the soapbox, but i felt like writing, and trying to explain why some folks like me, will be forced to wait to get one used, or not at all until they are more affordable for us.
Last edited by Ed 2001 SS; 10-13-2008 at 10:15 AM.
10-13-2008 | 10:28 AM
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10-13-2008 | 10:32 AM
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Pricing is good compared to market and your all comparing to a mustange that is 5 years old. Just because you can't afford it does not mean it is priced wrong for the equipment you get it is priced good. The corvette if you wanted the same equipment you would need a 3LT comparable to a 2ss is an MSRP of 55k and a 3lt corvette convt. stickers for 65k
10-13-2008 | 10:36 AM
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You can find a v6 mustang for what 16-18k new? Yes its slower..but people are going to be looking at V6 vs V6 and the camaro being 4-5k higher is going to hurt them...(always has). I think GM needs to sell vechiles and price plays a large role in this country...I understand they have taken own a lot of costs....but....V8's starting at 31k with 3.00 gas might not be the best one....
I hope it all the best however...I"ll be looking for a used 5th gen in about 2016...
I hope it all the best however...I"ll be looking for a used 5th gen in about 2016...
10-13-2008 | 10:37 AM
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People on here are acting like this is new info. The rumors around here pretty much had the prices nailed for quite some time now ($23k for a V6 and $30k for a V8.) Did anyone really think that they were going to get a fully optioned V8 car for $30k? Or even $33k? That's what a fully optioned V8 F-body went for 8 years ago (in model years.) That was for a car that pales in comparison to what is offered today.
Also why is there a comparison to "yesterday's" Mustang to the Camaro. We were told that there was going to be a premium over the Mustang and there's a good reason for that. This car is leaps and bounds better than the Mustang is in terms of performance and quality. Of course the Mustang is cheaper. It's almost 5 years old (once again in model years,) makes only as much hp as the entry level Camaro, and has an extremely dated chassis. When they offer the reskin next year you are still going to have all of the drawbacks of the the current car. Despite what anyone may believe there will be a price increase for the reskin. Finally, when they offer the all new car for 2011 you really can't expect to have the car that they are "promising" for a SUBSTANTIAL discount over the Camaro can you? If so then I have some ocean front property in AZ to sell you.
In all, the Camaro is priced right for the quality of the car that it is. Will, the Mustang be cheaper? Maybe, but as in all things in life, you get what you pay for.
Also why is there a comparison to "yesterday's" Mustang to the Camaro. We were told that there was going to be a premium over the Mustang and there's a good reason for that. This car is leaps and bounds better than the Mustang is in terms of performance and quality. Of course the Mustang is cheaper. It's almost 5 years old (once again in model years,) makes only as much hp as the entry level Camaro, and has an extremely dated chassis. When they offer the reskin next year you are still going to have all of the drawbacks of the the current car. Despite what anyone may believe there will be a price increase for the reskin. Finally, when they offer the all new car for 2011 you really can't expect to have the car that they are "promising" for a SUBSTANTIAL discount over the Camaro can you? If so then I have some ocean front property in AZ to sell you.
In all, the Camaro is priced right for the quality of the car that it is. Will, the Mustang be cheaper? Maybe, but as in all things in life, you get what you pay for.
10-13-2008 | 10:46 AM
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This is the Camaro you're talking about:
2010 Camaro 2LT: $27,330
RS on a 2LT: $1450
Sunroof: $900
Total: $29,680
I went to FordVehicles.com and built a Mustang GT, adding in features to make it comparable to the 2LT+RS wherever possible:
2009 Mustang GT: $26,775
18" Aluminum Wheels: $925
Trip Tunes Advanced Audio Connection: $295
Total: $27,995
This car doesn't have heated power seats, HID lights, or the nice stereo, but it comes in under 28k like you wanted. To configure a Mustang with all of the features of the 2LT+RS, you need to start with the GT Premium:
2009 Mustang GT Premium: $28,375
Comfort Package: $575
18" Aluminum Wheels: $925
HID Lights: $900 (would be $525, but requires the $375 security package)
Trip Tunes Advanced Audio Connection: $295
Total: $32,215
You still can't get a sunroof or 20" wheels on a Mustang (maybe as a dealer option, but not from the factory). You can pony up $1995 for a glass roof if you want, but it doesn't open up.
I don't know how the prices will differ on the 2010 Mustang relative to the 2009, but I think the extra $1680 for Camaro is going to make you happiest.
2010 Camaro 2LT: $27,330
RS on a 2LT: $1450
Sunroof: $900
Total: $29,680
I went to FordVehicles.com and built a Mustang GT, adding in features to make it comparable to the 2LT+RS wherever possible:
2009 Mustang GT: $26,775
18" Aluminum Wheels: $925
Trip Tunes Advanced Audio Connection: $295
Total: $27,995
This car doesn't have heated power seats, HID lights, or the nice stereo, but it comes in under 28k like you wanted. To configure a Mustang with all of the features of the 2LT+RS, you need to start with the GT Premium:
2009 Mustang GT Premium: $28,375
Comfort Package: $575
18" Aluminum Wheels: $925
HID Lights: $900 (would be $525, but requires the $375 security package)
Trip Tunes Advanced Audio Connection: $295
Total: $32,215
You still can't get a sunroof or 20" wheels on a Mustang (maybe as a dealer option, but not from the factory). You can pony up $1995 for a glass roof if you want, but it doesn't open up.
I don't know how the prices will differ on the 2010 Mustang relative to the 2009, but I think the extra $1680 for Camaro is going to make you happiest.
Thanks for doing this, it does make a bit more sense, but perhaps what annoyed me and made me to loose my mind and start bashing on the Camaro is the fact that a V6 Camaro is being placed in the same price range as a V8 mustang-yes they have the same hp, but the mustang can still beat the V6 Camaro and is due to get an "upgrade" next year. There is nothing I would like more than to get a 2010 Camaro-I fell in love with it in 06, and drive an 02-but being a college student and due to the financial crisis going on I might have to wait to get one or buy another car…something I don’t want to do.
**** IT! I cant say no to the Camaro, Once I am out of work and school today I am off to the dealership to order-they say I am 6th on the list so hopefully I can get mine in march
I just need some luck to make sure i get a $350-400 monthly payment on the 2LT with sunroof and RS package- I can do that! Camaro, its too much to resist.
Last edited by ELMATONSS; 10-13-2008 at 10:53 AM.
10-13-2008 | 10:47 AM
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I think we are in a very similar situation. yes I could maybe afford a v6, but I would feel like I was wasting my money because I would not be happy with it not being a v8 and all.
it would be like finally getting to meet your childhood hero, and finding out they were not at all as great as you thought they would be...walking away a little dissapointed.
it would be like finally getting to meet your childhood hero, and finding out they were not at all as great as you thought they would be...walking away a little dissapointed.
Well said Purple 92 SS. While it's true that there are A LOT of people that can and will pay those prices, the Camaro was and always should be an ENTRY LEVEL musclecar. Talk to anyone that wanted a 98-02 Z28 or SS, and they will tell you that they didn't get it simply because of the price. I understand that the pricing on this is the same if not cheaper than it was then, but it is definitely removed from the entry level status at that price.
It is commendable that you won't put yourself in a financial bind in order to get a car, but getting a Camaro convertible for less than 300/month without ponying up a hefty down payment wasn't even possible on 4th gens. 300/month doesn't buy much (300/month means financing about 15K-18K total). Unless you are looking at a stripped Cobalt, or some form of Korean car, you aren't going to be buying anything at all.
Thanks Ed. Yes, I realize there would be a heavy down payment and or trade in's, but it would be more doable if it were a cheaper price. Hence the reason why i stated i was going to probably have to wait for used ones, if at all. My post wasnt just to show my personal situation, it was to hopefully voice the opinion of many others out there, that wouldnt/didnt want to air their situation, and also to explain that a entry level v8 would have probably been a welcome car among those of us that "used to be considered middle class" but no longer consider ourselves as such. I know and HOPE and PRAY this car does well, but for those of us in the lower spectrum of the income brackets, will not be able to buy one new, does nothing for GM to sell tons of them and make them profitable for many years to come.
Perhaps I'm wrong though, perhaps a entry level v8 wouldnt be what the majority wants, and wouldnt sell all that well to those of us in the lower income range. Perhaps, the new v6 will be "all that and a bag of chips" enough to replace the v8 lust that we have.. but for now, without having driven either, i'm still set on a v8... and whats even worse is, i want to keep my Z/28 chain alive, and buy a z/28, so if these are the prices of the SS im seriously dreading the future prices of a possible z/28.. I guess it really dashes my hopes is what i'm saying.
10-13-2008 | 10:48 AM
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The 2010 Mustang GT to be released in Jan 2009 will have the new look, but the carryover drivetrain. The 2011 Mustang GT should have the 5.0 liter, 32 valve, 400hp, 6 speed trans drivetrain. And by then, the Camaro will probably get a couple of price raises. I know Ford must be happy about the new Camaro prices.
10-13-2008 | 10:48 AM
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I agree with most of that...and I do think the quality will be better.
My arguemnt is that why the orginal camaro failed due to mustang outsellingit all the time by tons of units due to the mustang v6 being cheap. I dont' want to see the new camaro to fail..but with the economy etc...I doubt the general public(not us camaro friends here) will want/can pay close to 25k out the door after dealers....
I really hope it does...but if the gas MPG things are correct too it getting less mpg then the lt1 4th gen 6 speeds is not going to help them either lol....
Also this reminds of GTO where the sticker is higher thanthe mustang...and closer to a vette....hope it dont' fail...
My arguemnt is that why the orginal camaro failed due to mustang outsellingit all the time by tons of units due to the mustang v6 being cheap. I dont' want to see the new camaro to fail..but with the economy etc...I doubt the general public(not us camaro friends here) will want/can pay close to 25k out the door after dealers....
I really hope it does...but if the gas MPG things are correct too it getting less mpg then the lt1 4th gen 6 speeds is not going to help them either lol....
Also this reminds of GTO where the sticker is higher thanthe mustang...and closer to a vette....hope it dont' fail...
Last edited by Coolformula; 10-13-2008 at 10:54 AM.
10-13-2008 | 10:50 AM
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You guys are lucky you even have to struggle over V8-VS-V6. I couldn't even afford a 1995 that has been slammed into a telephone pole caught fire and drowned in a river. I just keep telling myself someday this degree I am seeking will be worth it.
10-13-2008 | 10:52 AM
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and when he gets smoked buy a new camaro the driver of that camaro will think... "glad i saved my money and bought a camaro"
10-13-2008 | 10:53 AM
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gotta remember the people who comparison shop that don't care too much about the chassis, IRS, etc. if I was someone who liked the design of both and looking for a cheap v6 to drive around daily. yeah I would probably go for the cheaper mustang.