Creation of the Camaro Concept
01-17-2006 | 03:40 PM
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Re: Creation of the Camaro Concept
Originally Posted by IZ28
does anyone else notice just how IROC-Z that bumper would be without the round lights and if that grill didn't go all the way across?
01-18-2006 | 08:12 AM
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Re: Creation of the Camaro Concept
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01-18-2006 | 08:58 AM
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Re: Creation of the Camaro Concept
Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me
Pacer that seems a little one sided. One of the reasons that GM's car lineup was in the shape it was in was because of arguments like that. Put struts on the trunk lid, they take up less trunk space, probably weigh less, and likely cost the same.
We can't let this be a "motor in a box" again it was a major reason the 4th gen died.
We can't let this be a "motor in a box" again it was a major reason the 4th gen died.
Regardless of struts or springs, you're still going to have those huge hinges.
01-18-2006 | 10:43 AM
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Re: Creation of the Camaro Concept
Originally Posted by RhinoSS
How to springs take up any more trunk space? Most of the springs were torsion bars that bolted onto the bottom of the rear deck. They took up MAYBE 1/2".
Regardless of struts or springs, you're still going to have those huge hinges.
Regardless of struts or springs, you're still going to have those huge hinges.
Here's a good pic of my girlfriend's camry to illustrate my point:
In the pic, you can see the arms holding the trunk, and in the stereo, you can see the corresponding cutouts I had to use in order for the trunk to close with the stereo installed. Those cutouts represent lost trunk space, which while not seeming like much, is a royal pain in the *** for larger objects. It also makes the stereo install look stupid.
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01-21-2006 | 01:48 AM
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Re: Creation of the Camaro Concept
Originally Posted by IZ28
Even the trunk supports are retro. But really:
I like the 3rd/1st Gen mixed steering wheel, but does anyone else notice just how IROC-Z that bumper would be without the round lights and if that grill didn't go all the way across? Look at how the lower grill on the driver side is angled up like an IROC also and how the passenger is angled down, (more like the GTO) which is what made it to the concept we saw though. Doing that to the grill would make for a nice bumper change on certain models.
But really:I like the 3rd/1st Gen mixed steering wheel, but does anyone else notice just how IROC-Z that bumper would be without the round lights and if that grill didn't go all the way across? Look at how the lower grill on the driver side is angled up like an IROC also and how the passenger is angled down, (more like the GTO) which is what made it to the concept we saw though. Doing that to the grill would make for a nice bumper change on certain models.
Not until this post, did I see 3rd gen cues. But from that angle, I totally see IROC. Interesting.
The more I look at this concept, the more I like it. My first impression was already high, but now, I can't stop looking at it.
01-21-2006 | 03:37 AM
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Re: Creation of the Camaro Concept
Originally Posted by Jim85IROC
The big "J" shaped arms that connect the trunk to the springs takes up a lot of trunk space when the trunk is closed.
Here's a good pic of my girlfriend's camry to illustrate my point:
In the pic, you can see the arms holding the trunk, and in the stereo, you can see the corresponding cutouts I had to use in order for the trunk to close with the stereo installed. Those cutouts represent lost trunk space, which while not seeming like much, is a royal pain in the *** for larger objects. It also makes the stereo install look stupid.
Here's a good pic of my girlfriend's camry to illustrate my point:
In the pic, you can see the arms holding the trunk, and in the stereo, you can see the corresponding cutouts I had to use in order for the trunk to close with the stereo installed. Those cutouts represent lost trunk space, which while not seeming like much, is a royal pain in the *** for larger objects. It also makes the stereo install look stupid.
01-21-2006 | 10:08 AM
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Re: Creation of the Camaro Concept
Originally Posted by Jim85IROC
The big "J" shaped arms that connect the trunk to the springs takes up a lot of trunk space when the trunk is closed.
Here's a good pic of my girlfriend's camry to illustrate my point:
In the pic, you can see the arms holding the trunk, and in the stereo, you can see the corresponding cutouts I had to use in order for the trunk to close with the stereo installed. Those cutouts represent lost trunk space, which while not seeming like much, is a royal pain in the *** for larger objects. It also makes the stereo install look stupid.
Here's a good pic of my girlfriend's camry to illustrate my point:
In the pic, you can see the arms holding the trunk, and in the stereo, you can see the corresponding cutouts I had to use in order for the trunk to close with the stereo installed. Those cutouts represent lost trunk space, which while not seeming like much, is a royal pain in the *** for larger objects. It also makes the stereo install look stupid.
If people can't see that the struts take up less trunk space I suggest they look a little harder.
01-21-2006 | 11:07 AM
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Re: Creation of the Camaro Concept
I agree on the struts. They're a good space saver. My sebring convertible has them as well. In a small trunk you need to save all the space you can!
Now here is a Stratus...same platform as Sebring convertible. It has a deeper trunk and that helps deal with the arms, but you can see how it makes a difference.
Now here is a Stratus...same platform as Sebring convertible. It has a deeper trunk and that helps deal with the arms, but you can see how it makes a difference.
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