Dibz28 Camaro Concept Comments
#16
Re: Dibz28 Camaro Concept Comments
Originally Posted by Fbodfather
we're getting a lot of negative comments about the gages in the console.
Let me ask you this: What would you think if they were there......but Heads up display was standard with that gage package?
I agree that the gages in that location are by no means driver friendly.
Let me ask you this: What would you think if they were there......but Heads up display was standard with that gage package?
I agree that the gages in that location are by no means driver friendly.
As a C5 Corvette owner, I can speak many praises of the HUD-- I absolutely love it!!! I really like the asthetic of the console gages, and expected when I saw it on the concept that it would most likely be an option-only thing, which would be perfect for people like me, who would absolutely love to have it, (the look that it conveys: ALL business, Hell Yes!!) while allowing others to have a (less? ) traditional cluster layout. As long as the important info is also showed on the HUD (a low-gas signal, warnings, etc...) why the hell would you NOT want such a cool looking thing?
I'm still of the opinion that, properly executed and layed-out, a HUD is one of the best things ever-- the C5's has a few flaws, but is easily one of my favorite features of the car. When not over-gimmicked, it has many positive things to add to the driving experience, not the least of which safety.
Keep the console cluster-- just make it an option for Z/28 or SS buyers...
#17
Re: Dibz28 Camaro Concept Comments
Originally Posted by Fbodfather
Let me ask you this: What would you think if they were there......but Heads up display was standard with that gage package?
Randy
#19
Re: Dibz28 Camaro Concept Comments
Originally Posted by Z284ever
I didn't much care for the retro instrument panel nor the gauges in the console.
HUD would be a VERY nice option to have though
#20
Re: Dibz28 Camaro Concept Comments
Originally Posted by Fbodfather
Please understand that you will get a form letter back..simply due to the volume of email we receive.....but you can be assured that every email will be read....and forwarded on to the parties that need to see your comments.
This is 06, the internet is a huge form of FREE advertising and FREE marketing research. I know you are on here, but it's not your real job.
I would think someday the big 3 will realize how many people they can reach online on message boards like this. How much free feedback they can get, How they can even get photoshops of what someone wants to see and then have 50 people comment and get an instant feel for how well it is recieved without ever lifting a finger.
How they can get a free feel for what options people want and what percentage would be willing to pay what for them.
They can ease complaints, such as ones about weight, by actually reaching a message board with 10,000+users and explaining in detail why it is what it is. This makes the customer(us) feel like we matter and are important much more then a form letter.
There are so many other benefits ,I just for the life of me can't figure out why someone from the big 3 hasn't jumped on this. I'm sure someday someone will and there will be a fulltime person that just types on large message boards all over the internet doing some PR work. I just wonder why not now.
#21
Re: Dibz28 Camaro Concept Comments
Originally Posted by jg95z28
Actually the guages are much closer to the 67-68 layout. 1969 had two big guages, but they weren't in "pods" like 1967 and 1968.
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/s...3&page=1&pp=20
#22
Re: Dibz28 Camaro Concept Comments
Originally Posted by Fbodfather
Let me ask you this: What would you think if they were there......but Heads up display was standard with that gage package?
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#23
Re: Dibz28 Camaro Concept Comments
HUD would be cool but still, if the retro look inside was kept, I'd really dislike it.
Please please please, no retro look inside. No guages by the shifter, I dont feel like rearending a semi truck as a result of looking at one of them down there.
Please please please, no retro look inside. No guages by the shifter, I dont feel like rearending a semi truck as a result of looking at one of them down there.
#25
Re: Dibz28 Camaro Concept Comments
Scott-Please, if a HUD is to be incorporated, make it an option. I'm not saying I want roll up windows and such, but the Camaro needs to be somewhat simple, I don't need navigation, climate control, hud, heated seats, stability control, and such. ABS/TCS is great for most driving, and I really don't need a power seat for my passenger. Look at the way the Mustang is equipped, and selling quite well, I may add.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
#26
Re: Dibz28 Camaro Concept Comments
I like the idea of the HUD, I've been wanting one since GM starting using them years ago. But like above I'd be worried about it being attached to a larger expensive option package w/ a bigass nav screen/AC control/radio control thing in my dash and whatever accompanying crap. I don't really want that other stuff, that would cost like $2k or more.
I actually really like the idea of some gauges down by the shifter, I had thought of doing a custom project to add some gauges like a tranny temp gauge, oil temp gauge etc down in a similar location (instead of the ashtray) on my thirdgens. Never got around to doing it. However, I don't like the idea of my fuel level, oil pressure, engine temp, or voltage (ok, maybe voltage) gauges being down there. It's not a deal breaker but I like more of a cockpit feel and having those gauges tucked that far down there seems old fashioned (which I guess it is). I'd rather have those kinds of gauges over to the side more towards the middle of a dash in a panel that is angled towards the driver or something (to help add some "wrap around" cockpit feel to the dash setup) if they can't be right w/ the speedo and tach.
Maybe you guys are deliberately trying to get rid of it due to some complaints or it being a little extreme for teenage girls and the like, but I like the center console that flows up into the dash and then forms a bit of a "wrap around" feel for the driver like the 4thgens. In fact if it didn't have a aircraft carrier deck for a upper dash panel I'd say the dash and gauge setup on the 4thgens is one of the better setups I've ever used... It's extremely sweet IMO and I really dig it, definitely has a cockpit feel.
A HUD along w/ those gauges down there is better than nothing though, I think I already said it but as long as all the gauges are decent looking (I thought the concept gauges looked hideous and near unusable regardless of positioning, maybe it would help alot of people if they were realistic looking gauges) it's not a deal breaker...
I actually really like the idea of some gauges down by the shifter, I had thought of doing a custom project to add some gauges like a tranny temp gauge, oil temp gauge etc down in a similar location (instead of the ashtray) on my thirdgens. Never got around to doing it. However, I don't like the idea of my fuel level, oil pressure, engine temp, or voltage (ok, maybe voltage) gauges being down there. It's not a deal breaker but I like more of a cockpit feel and having those gauges tucked that far down there seems old fashioned (which I guess it is). I'd rather have those kinds of gauges over to the side more towards the middle of a dash in a panel that is angled towards the driver or something (to help add some "wrap around" cockpit feel to the dash setup) if they can't be right w/ the speedo and tach.
Maybe you guys are deliberately trying to get rid of it due to some complaints or it being a little extreme for teenage girls and the like, but I like the center console that flows up into the dash and then forms a bit of a "wrap around" feel for the driver like the 4thgens. In fact if it didn't have a aircraft carrier deck for a upper dash panel I'd say the dash and gauge setup on the 4thgens is one of the better setups I've ever used... It's extremely sweet IMO and I really dig it, definitely has a cockpit feel.
A HUD along w/ those gauges down there is better than nothing though, I think I already said it but as long as all the gauges are decent looking (I thought the concept gauges looked hideous and near unusable regardless of positioning, maybe it would help alot of people if they were realistic looking gauges) it's not a deal breaker...
Last edited by Ray86IROC; 01-20-2006 at 01:30 AM.
#27
Re: Dibz28 Camaro Concept Comments
Hmm, I did a quick edit on the interior image since I feel the gauges used in the concept really hurt getting a feel for that layout.
I'm not very good at image editing and this was just supposed to be quick and dirty anyway, still has orange crap showing around and stuff, but I think with something that actually resembles gauges the layout actually isn't too bad:
I'm not very good at image editing and this was just supposed to be quick and dirty anyway, still has orange crap showing around and stuff, but I think with something that actually resembles gauges the layout actually isn't too bad:
Last edited by Ray86IROC; 01-20-2006 at 02:24 AM.
#28
Re: Dibz28 Camaro Concept Comments
Originally Posted by Ray86IROC
Hmm, I did a quick edit on the interior image since I feel the gauges used in the concept really hurt getting a feel for that layout.
I'm not very good at image editing and this was just supposed to be quick and dirty anyway, still has orange crap showing around and stuff, but I think with something that actually resembles gauges the layout actually isn't too bad:
I'm not very good at image editing and this was just supposed to be quick and dirty anyway, still has orange crap showing around and stuff, but I think with something that actually resembles gauges the layout actually isn't too bad:
Last edited by 5thgen69camaro; 01-20-2006 at 03:26 AM.
#29
Re: Dibz28 Camaro Concept Comments
Originally Posted by Fbodfather
we're getting a lot of negative comments about the gages in the console.
Let me ask you this: What would you think if they were there......but Heads up display was standard with that gage package?
I agree that the gages in that location are by no means driver friendly.
It was a design cue from the 69 Camaro that was put into the concept to judge public acceptance (or lack thereof!) That's one of the reasons it's wise to do a concept first!
Please......if you haven't already done so......give us your feedback at
www.chevrolet.com --then click on 'contact us'
Please understand that you will get a form letter back..simply due to the volume of email we receive.....but you can be assured that every email will be read....and forwarded on to the parties that need to see your comments.
Let me ask you this: What would you think if they were there......but Heads up display was standard with that gage package?
I agree that the gages in that location are by no means driver friendly.
It was a design cue from the 69 Camaro that was put into the concept to judge public acceptance (or lack thereof!) That's one of the reasons it's wise to do a concept first!
Please......if you haven't already done so......give us your feedback at
www.chevrolet.com --then click on 'contact us'
Please understand that you will get a form letter back..simply due to the volume of email we receive.....but you can be assured that every email will be read....and forwarded on to the parties that need to see your comments.
Not that I doubted you, but it was a great feeling to get the phone call and know that people really do read the comments.
Thanks!
#30
Re: Dibz28 Camaro Concept Comments
I keep going back and looking at this interior concept. I have to honestly say that there is nothing about it that I like. I despise the retro theme (I like the exterior though); Gauges in the console are ridiculous; Gauges are supposed to give information to the driver. If you are going to put them this far out of the line of sight, they may as well be in the trunk.
A HUD would be a nice option. It won’t make up for a bad interior design.
The interior needs to be modern, well styled, sporty and functional. It should be well built with good materials and good fit and finish.
GM, I am begging you, please, please please! Scrap this interior design and start over!!!
NO RETRO IN THE INTERIOR!
A HUD would be a nice option. It won’t make up for a bad interior design.
The interior needs to be modern, well styled, sporty and functional. It should be well built with good materials and good fit and finish.
GM, I am begging you, please, please please! Scrap this interior design and start over!!!
NO RETRO IN THE INTERIOR!