NikiVee

Those numbers were given out by Al Oppenheiser, chief engineer for GM's North American Rear Drive program.

blue 79 Z/28

maybe they are purposely misleading us and low balling to trick the competition into thinking they got us in the bag and they are close so they don't tweak their cars more. then when the camaro comes out in 7 months, everyone will be surprised in the added performance. 7 months is still time for others to change things also, makes sense if you think abou it.

christianjax

I was thinking the same thing.

94Z28rag

You're going to believe Al over Scott??? I think you need to start reading this website more often...

Gold_Rush

The Challenger SRT8 with about the same hp has run 13.0-13.1 and that's with an extra 300lbs of weight and longer gearing. I think there's a very good chance the SS will at least match if not beat that by a tenth or two. We might even see some high 12's. The mph is definitely there.

You can't put too much stock in early factory preproduction times.

jg95z28

+2! I was thinking exactly the same thing.

z28Power

Thank you Scott.

I was talking in depth with blackoutj about this last night over some dinner and we concluded that the numbers just didn't seem right for the power and mph on the 1/4 run.

That's all you have to say to make me happier (for now!) I'm sure you'll let us know when you can on this

christianjax

I put a shout out over on the Charger Forum to get some numbers for SRT8 times. Most are in the very low 13's, but one guy ran consistant 12.90's in a bone stock SRT8 Chrysler 300. (which is heavier than the Challenger). So The Camaro will have its work cut out for it to take down the big 6.1 Hemi's. I know it will spank the 5.7 Hemi in my Charger Daytona. (heck, my 99 LS1 Trans Am does)
But I'm counting on the SS Camaro to come in at LEAST 5 Grand cheaper than a Challenger SRT8, hopefully even more.

Ron78Z&01SS

Agreed 100%.

I'm thinking he's quoting high 12 times of the 400hp LS2.

Ron78Z&01SS

Glad to hear it !

I wouldn't go as far as saying I was dissapointed by those LS3/SS numbers, but I was definately expecting better.

I DO think the V-6 numbers are pretty impressive though!

Gold_Rush

On paper, the SS looks to be more capable (similar hp, better gearing, and less weight). We'll see how it stacks up in the real world.

As for the 300 being heavier, how much heavier? published weight figures i've seen for the SRT8 chargers/300/challengers have all been within 40lbs of each other.

Charger SRT8: 4,160lbs (off Dodge site)
300c SRT8 : 4,178lbs (off Chrysler site)
Challenger SRT8: 4,140lbs-4,170lbs (off allpar because i couldn't find any weight on Dodge site. Allpar lists 4,140 - 4,170lbs).

That's a difference of less than 38lbs which is too small to notice.

djn

The G8 GXP is one bad ****. Can't wait for it to hit showrooms so I can drive it.

christianjax

I wasn't aware of the exact amount of weight difference in the LX cars, I was thinking the Challenger was around 100lbs lighter, being shorter and a two door.

NikiVee

I'm just stating some facts that were given out by the head engineer of the GM Rear Wheel NA program. Those are the numbers he stated the new Camaro runs right NOW.

I'm not passing judgement on who is telling the truth and who isn''t. Marketing guys and sales people push the truth, engineers just state facts.

jg95z28

Not always. Engineers are typically stubborn and will state facts that are outdated if they aren't aware of any changes.