RedLT4Mike

Oh, well I guess you've track tested it, weighed it, and had it repossessed
already...

99SilverSS

Isn't the LS3 rated at 430 in the base model Vette. The LS9 is over 600hp in the ZR1. Heck the LS6 was over 400hp 8 years ago. What are you really saying because you seem unimformed.

And for the weight unless you know something credible that you can share with us other than reckless conjecture I would think a bet on 1/4 mile times is just a bit premature.

hyperv6

Thank you some one who really understands!


The only truth I feel is the DI V6 and over 300 HP. it may be the only engine or the optional V6.

Limited V8... I don't see that it is even considered.

$25K good ball park price it is in the range.

It is time many need to come to terms this car will be a better car in so many ways vs the last Gen. Time technology and improved GM thinking is going to bring us a Camaro that will accel in so many areas.

This car is not going to please all as GM can not make a car that will. Heck we got people here that would complain to Ferarri about the Enzo.

The bottom line is many under estimate what GM is doing here. This is the same division that has done well with the C6, Z06 amd ZR1.

To many under estimate or just do not realize what the 3.6 V6 can do or will be able to do.

To many Do not understand what John Heinrency and team will do with this car as they put the final tuning on the handling. These are the same people that are making the critics rave over the HHR SS and CTS.

Don't sell the Camaro team short. There is a lot of good things going on here and if you complain or doubt too much your going to miss it.

Silverado C-10

Considering the volume of Camaros that GM is hoping to sell, this number is ridiculous.

Of course, there is one scenario that would make sense.... the car is released this november

Liquid Slap

"I will just say that I will not be a bit surprised if the base 2010 V8 Camaro outperforms what was the top level 2002 V8 Camaro."

In Jason's quote, it doesn't say anything about HP. It says that he wouldn't be surprised if the "base" V8 could out perform an 02 SS. So no matter how much it weighs, it could still possibly outperform an 02 SS at 335hp 0-60 in 5.2

I don't knoooooow.......

5thGen

In regards to the topic,

the 300 hp V6 makes A LOT of sense as being the base engine because it will bring up the mileage quite a bit for the whole line up. However I think the 25k price is out of line. The 260 hp version of the CTS is only a couple grand less than the 306 hp version, and that includes a lot of other options. I figure 22k if the DI V6 is standard.

For 7500 units, this would only make sense if the V8 was only a 500 hp version, which would be stupid. There have probably been 1000 people who have stated they want a very affordable V8 option. However, that affordable V8 would not make much sense either unless it was 350hp or more. If the DI V6 with 306 hp is standard, a 300 hp 5.3L V8 would be dumb as an option even though it'd be much quicker because it would have a lot more torque. People look at the HP numbers.

So, DI makes sense because it makes better mileage, so what does that mean for the V8? 375hp? 400? WHatever it is, I am sure (as usual) it will be less hp than the vette and quite a bit more than the 6.

2K1SunsetSS

Ok, if the new base v8 camaro doesn't run 12s in the 1/4 mile we were just lied to.

From what he said I get the feeling the l98 will be the base.

Hylton

So what? The 02 SS was the base V8. Sure you guys can talk all you want about how that hood adds extra HP but we all know that an 02 SS performs the same as an 02 Z/28. So based on that, Jason was just saying a base 2010 V8 Camaro will outperform a base 2002 V8 Camaro. Anything less would be disappointing.

Gripenfelter

I sent PHR a nasty email. I sent Car and Driver one a few months ago as well. So tired of the BS you hear about the Camaro in magazines.

Liquid Slap

Wouldn't be a lie because it wasn't stated as fact.

Big Als Z

Id say that with CAFE regs, that the DI 3.6 that was just placed in the Traverse will be the base engine for Camaro. At 286hp, the Camaro will have a powerful and fuel efficent V6. IMO, a good step in the right direction.
As for a base V8, I hope that we do get a V8 under the LS3. Again, with concern for fuel economy, as well as fuel cost, a low-octane L98 or L76 making 365ish hp would be a nice middle ground for Camaro. An SS version can get teh LS3, and a top shelf Z28 would get something with more power.
I would also agree that GM's base V8 will outperform an SS or WS6 TA. Id even be inclined to say a V6 version will give you about 90% of a SS's acceleration, but handle better.

Hylton

Just supercharge the V6!

5thGen

or turbo it, under normal driving it will still get excellent mileage. SC is on all the time.

number77

I know you guys don't like to be tyrants, but please correct the first post. Alot of times I'm just skimming threads and only read the first couple responses and I know others do the same.

Somebody needs to start tallying up this misinformation and the mags that publish it.

i3arracuda

If the base Camaro retails for $25,000, then this car is dead on arrival.

Sure, a trick, 300-hp V6 is nice. I'd love to see one as an available option. As the base engine? At a 20% premium over a base Mustang? I don't see that being a formula for success. Especially when you consider GM expects to sell 100,000 cars per year.