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Old 05-21-2008 | 01:44 PM
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ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND! I'd have smashed a fire extingusiher repeatedly over it if thats what they showed us.
I would have paid money to see that




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Two members own restoration/repair shops - both specializing in Camaro.
can you give info on the repair shop?. i need alot of help on my 3rd gen
Old 05-21-2008 | 01:50 PM
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Wow, what an interesting thread. No matter how much good that GM and the Fbodyfather do and they try to involve enthusiasts, we just continue to prove that you can never make everyone happy.

I am the most jealous person alive that I wasn't chosen. I feel as though I am know a few of the people involved pretty well and yet, I was passed on for this opportunity.

Thanks to that group for showing us thier enthusiasm and giving us at least some feedback. Even mentioning the plane and the proving grounds themselves and how inspiring they were is a plus. It raises the excitment level.

I can't wait to see the car and Indy and hopefully meet some of the people here at that event. We can all get excited together about that car!
Old 05-21-2008 | 01:59 PM
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I can't wait to see the car and Indy and hopefully meet some of the people here at that event. We can all get excited together about that car!
I'll be the one wearing the bullet proof vest.
Old 05-21-2008 | 02:06 PM
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Lets see... of the group, four currently own 1st gens. Four currently own 2nd gens. Four currently own 3rd gens. Seven own more than one Camaro. One member has 9 Camaros of all generations.

One is a 1st gen judge at the Camaro Nationals at Carlisle, the largest Camaro show in the nation. Remember the Camaro Heritage tour? His 67 Pace Car and 68 convertible were both in it. Cars he personally restored.

Two members own restoration/repair shops - both specializing in Camaro.

I can hear the air coming out of your arguement from here.
Okay you win! Just curious since you seem to have the stats - how many own 4th gens?
Old 05-21-2008 | 02:06 PM
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So... there were two V8 autos, and one V6 manual, but it's already been mentioned that there were four Camaros (Red, Silver, Black, and a mystery color I believe to be Hugger Orange ). Nobody ever mentions the fourth car's powertrain setup. Was it a V6 auto? If so, since that is likely going to be the one that sells in the largest numbers, can anyone comment on it?
HUGGER ORANGE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 05-21-2008 | 02:09 PM
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I am the most jealous person alive that I wasn't chosen.

I can't wait to see the car and Indy and hopefully meet some of the people here at that event. We can all get excited together about that car!

I................am the most jealous person alive .


i hope to be there as well
Old 05-21-2008 | 02:09 PM
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But I have the impression that all 15 have "bought in" to the 5th gen car from it's conception. I have the impression that purchasing a 5th gen is a forgone conclusion for all 15 regardless of it's strengths/shortcomings. I have the impression that this particular 15 people were very friendly 'critics', really there to lend legitimacy to what the Camaro team has already decided to do.

I don't want to disparage the fine people involved here or this very interesting process, but I'd bet that very few 'hardballs' were thrown. And that perhaps was by design.


I don't mean anything bad by this, it's just the way I see it.
I'm not about to speak for the other 14 but I don't fit this description. If and when I buy a 5th gen it will have to fit a particular niche in our garage and replace at least 1, preferably 2, of the vehicles we have now. Cheryl, Brett and Tom have a very clear understanding of what changes I would like to see. The good thing is, they're content items that can easily be addressed if the buying public demands them.

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Old 05-21-2008 | 02:18 PM
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Cheryl, Brett and Tom have a very clear understanding of what changes I would like to see. The good thing is, they're content items that can easily be addressed if the buying public demands them.
And those changes you would like to see are?
Old 05-21-2008 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeRobb
So... there were two V8 autos, and one V6 manual, but it's already been mentioned that there were four Camaros (Red, Silver, Black, and a mystery color I believe to be Hugger Orange ). Nobody ever mentions the fourth car's powertrain setup. Was it a V6 auto? If so, since that is likely going to be the one that sells in the largest numbers, can anyone comment on it?
Actually there were 6 cars. The two black and white IVER cars that we drove were V8 automatics. Then there were the 4 marketing cars, one of which was the V6 manual that we drove. The other 3, IIRC were all V8 automatics that we crawled all over, but didn't drive.
Old 05-21-2008 | 02:27 PM
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And those changes you would like to see are?
I don't think I can answer that directly. I'll just say that options list isn't as extensive as for a Trailblazer SS. 99% of buyers from this board won't even notice.
Old 05-21-2008 | 02:43 PM
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Okay you win! Just curious since you seem to have the stats - how many own 4th gens?
Two dont - Jason, who sold his recently. Janet - who is a dual Corvette owner - C6 Z06 and C6 coupe.
Old 05-21-2008 | 02:43 PM
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Why are you bringing up Scott's integrity? He is an exceptional champion of the Camaro.
I bring up his intergrity as I believe it to be without question.

Scott was involved with the selection process of the "desciples". I have known Scott for a fair amount of time. Among the thing I know about him is that he doesn't get involved with dog and pony shows, nor does he tolerate less than excellence associated with his name.

My read of your concerns with this pocess is that the choices of the group didn't meet with your approval and thus the reactions from the group were questionable to you. In and of itself, that's fine.

It's my read that you feel the choice of the focus group was geared to choose easily swayed people who were not on a "who's who". I get the impression that had a "who's who" of the Camaro community which would meet your approval would result in a more honest response about the proceedings. That's fine too, up to a point. Where I object is in any situation where the community has bouts of what can easily be seen as attacks on credibility and integrity.

I'm not questioning anyone's integrity... It's my opinion you are. If I'm misreading the gist of your posts about this, I'm certain you will clarify.

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Old 05-21-2008 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by poSSum
Actually there were 6 cars. The two black and white IVER cars that we drove were V8 automatics. Then there were the 4 marketing cars, one of which was the V6 manual that we drove. The other 3, IIRC were all V8 automatics that we crawled all over, but didn't drive.
We keep forgetting about the C6 Z06 that was there to help pass time while we waited turns for the Camaros.
Old 05-21-2008 | 02:47 PM
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Scott was involved with the selection process of the "disciples".
actually, Scott wasnt that involved. He gave input to Cheryl and John, but he recused himself when they made the decisions on who was in and out.
Old 05-21-2008 | 02:52 PM
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We keep forgetting about the C6 Z06 that was there to help pass time while we waited turns for the Camaros.
If I had've been there, I would have given that neglected Z06 some lovin' . I also would have been figuring out a way to do an engine swap into one of the Camaros while noone was looking, then say "Surprise! Look, I built a really cool Camaro!! "



Or was the Z06 there to benchmark against????????



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