Fbodfather's Milford/5th gen thoughts...
05-21-2008 | 03:02 PM
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I bring up his intergrity as I believe it to be without question.
Scott was involved with the selection process of the "desciples".
My read of your concerns with this pocess is that the choices of the group didn't meet with your approval and thus the reactions from the group were questionable to you.
It's my read that you feel the choice of the focus group was geared to choose easily swayed people who were not on a "who's who". I get the impression that had a "who's who" of the Camaro community which would meet your approval would result in a more honest response about the proceedings.
I'm not questioning anyone's integrity... It's my opinion you are. If I'm misreading the gist of your posts about this, I'm certain you will clarify.
Scott was involved with the selection process of the "desciples".
My read of your concerns with this pocess is that the choices of the group didn't meet with your approval and thus the reactions from the group were questionable to you.
It's my read that you feel the choice of the focus group was geared to choose easily swayed people who were not on a "who's who". I get the impression that had a "who's who" of the Camaro community which would meet your approval would result in a more honest response about the proceedings.
I'm not questioning anyone's integrity... It's my opinion you are. If I'm misreading the gist of your posts about this, I'm certain you will clarify.
Am I seeing something here?
05-21-2008 | 03:04 PM
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05-21-2008 | 03:08 PM
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05-21-2008 | 03:17 PM
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No doubt he had a say. He's the one spending literally hunderds of hours in planes every year meeting and getting to know us over the past 12 years. So why wouldn't Cheryl and John seek his input. Be pretty stupid if they didnt. My understanding was Scott's involement was to help pear the list down from hundreds to a more manageable list. John and Cheryl made the final cuts without Scott in the room. That I know for a fact.
I'm not really sure what point it is you are trying to make. NO PUBLIC WEBSITE was used to solicit applications.
I'm not really sure what point it is you are trying to make. NO PUBLIC WEBSITE was used to solicit applications.
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05-21-2008 | 03:20 PM
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Chris says that only one 'desciple' was not a 4th genner (I count Jason as one since it is the reason he built this site). You say Scott (Mr. 4thgen) was involved in the selection process. Jason says that everyone from other generation websites had equal opportunity to be selected.
Am I seeing something here?
Am I seeing something here?
I'm glad we both have unquestioned respect for Scott. You clear that up for me and I appreciate it. I think Scott was there for the event. Had he not felt it was all on the up and up, he would not have been there.
Can we agree on that?
05-21-2008 | 03:26 PM
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No doubt he had a say. He's the one spending literally hunderds of hours in planes every year meeting and getting to know us over the past 12 years. So why wouldn't Cheryl and John seek his input. Be pretty stupid if they didnt. My understanding was Scott's involement was to help pear the list down from hundreds to a more manageable list. John and Cheryl made the final cuts without Scott in the room. That I know for a fact.
05-21-2008 | 03:32 PM
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I'm not going to speak for Scott. I'm certain he didn't want to pick one member of the community over another. It's not how he is, upon my refection, and no he wouldn't want to be involved with cutting heads.
I'm glad we both have unquestioned respect for Scott. You clear that up for me and I appreciate it. I think Scott was there for the event. Had he not felt it was all on the up and up, he would not have been there.
Can we agree on that?
I'm glad we both have unquestioned respect for Scott. You clear that up for me and I appreciate it. I think Scott was there for the event. Had he not felt it was all on the up and up, he would not have been there.
Can we agree on that?
I have spoken with him more about GM's internal problems than the Camaro and let me tell you, you would be surprised how much he knows when it comes to things non Camaro.
But at the end of the day, let's be honest here - the Focus group is a bunch of 4th genners.
05-21-2008 | 03:39 PM
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I do stand corrected, I was confusing it with something else. My apologies to all for getting my wires crossed. Especially you, Hylton, since it seems to mean a lot to you! I see the point you are trying to make. I am sure those who made the final decision had reasons for those decisions. 4th gen, 1st, gen, doesn't matter. They think they made the right choices, you clearly disagree. I think it is time to agree to disagree and move on. That horse was dead over a year ago.
05-21-2008 | 03:45 PM
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I do stand corrected, I was confusing it with something else. My apologies to all for getting my wires crossed. Especially you, Hylton, since it seems to mean a lot to you! I see the point you are trying to make. I am sure those who made the final decision had reasons for those decisions. 4th gen, 1st, gen, doesn't matter. They think they made the right choices, you clearly disagree. I think it is time to agree to disagree and move on. That horse was dead over a year ago.
SO.... How about them Red Wings?
05-21-2008 | 04:15 PM
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1st genners would offer a different perspective. There is a reason they did not go out and buy the 4th gen. Last year you all said that all generations were fairly represented in the focus group. The truth only comes out now and to me, that matters.