Fbodfather's Milford/5th gen thoughts...
05-20-2008 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
Welp, we've got 3 threads going on "hey it was great but we can't tell you about it".
05-20-2008 | 12:56 PM
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To be able to come to Indy and see what we saw and talk to the same GM people we've been working with in both of our focus group sessions, I'd consider it to be a close second to actually being there. Same people & cars, different venue.
-Teri
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05-20-2008 | 03:20 PM
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To be able to come to Indy and see what we saw and talk to the same GM people we've been working with in both of our focus group sessions, I'd consider it to be a close second to actually being there. Same people & cars, different venue.
-Teri
To be able to come to Indy and see what we saw and talk to the same GM people we've been working with in both of our focus group sessions, I'd consider it to be a close second to actually being there. Same people & cars, different venue.
-Teri
the indy event rolls around pretty much all info available about the Camaro will be out or on its way via the regular car rags. Meeting the team will be awesome and the turnout will determine how much face time you get with them. I'm just a big complainer that can't wait for a 5th gen to hit my garage thats all.
05-20-2008 | 04:45 PM
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05-20-2008 | 05:02 PM
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I agree that it will be second but disagree with the close. By the time
the indy event rolls around pretty much all info available about the Camaro will be out or on its way via the regular car rags. Meeting the team will be awesome and the turnout will determine how much face time you get with them. I'm just a big complainer that can't wait for a 5th gen to hit my garage thats all.
the indy event rolls around pretty much all info available about the Camaro will be out or on its way via the regular car rags. Meeting the team will be awesome and the turnout will determine how much face time you get with them. I'm just a big complainer that can't wait for a 5th gen to hit my garage thats all.
Reading about the car and actually being able to see it personally and touch it and smell the leather are two different things. For me, pictures don't do the car justice. My thoughts and feelings were completely solidified when it was a real thing in front of me. Indy will afford plenty of face time with the GM Dignitaries. They make themselves very accessible at a big event like we expect this to be. The chance to get real answers from GM representatives and compare different models & options will be so much better than getting misinformation from a salesman at a dealership. I'm going to use the trip to Indy as a chance to compare features and learn more about the Camaro (and how I want to option it) before I go to the dealer. It'll be hard to do any comparisons at a dealer until after they've started stocking the car, and we don't know how far out that will be.
05-20-2008 | 05:17 PM
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05-20-2008 | 05:26 PM
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05-20-2008 | 05:29 PM
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I think it's obvious what he was describing.
Read it again.
Originally Posted by Fbodfather
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Soon we see what appears to be a very low-slung sedan – covered with front and rear bras and lots of cammo paint……. – when suddenly someone shouts “LOOK!!! HERE COMES ONE!” – and behind the bus – like a couple of wild cheetahs – two black and white IVER Camaros come up at a high rate of speed – turn signals come on --- and they howl past the bus – and our disciples gasp.
Soon we see what appears to be a very low-slung sedan – covered with front and rear bras and lots of cammo paint……. – when suddenly someone shouts “LOOK!!! HERE COMES ONE!” – and behind the bus – like a couple of wild cheetahs – two black and white IVER Camaros come up at a high rate of speed – turn signals come on --- and they howl past the bus – and our disciples gasp.
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05-20-2008 | 06:43 PM
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CFI sucks (though there is some historical significance there)....but a clean 3rd Gen Z28 (or IROC) will turn my head every time.
See at Indy, Charlie.
Bob
PS....I'll challenge you to a race in my B2300 truck. Oughta be close.
See at Indy, Charlie.
Bob
PS....I'll challenge you to a race in my B2300 truck. Oughta be close.
05-20-2008 | 06:47 PM
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Hrm.
"Soon we see" implies that the forward movement of the van is what brought the "Sedan" into sight. So it would be ahead of the van.
But then he says, and then specifies, that the two camaros were coming up behind the van.
Not to mention, how someone "Suddenly" shouts, as if with no forewarning, which seeing one just before would be...Especially if the "We" (soon we see) implies that everyone saw the sedan. So why would someone then shout "Look!", after everyone saw it coming, that there was a camaro coming up behind the van?
Plus he calls it a sedan, which is a no-no if it is indeed a Camaro(IMO, I know what it means).
Now, you could very well be correct, but don't state it in such a manner when it can so easily be argued the other way.
PS, and sorry if I missed it or am too stupid to figure it out, what does "IVER" stand for?
"Soon we see" implies that the forward movement of the van is what brought the "Sedan" into sight. So it would be ahead of the van.
But then he says, and then specifies, that the two camaros were coming up behind the van.
Not to mention, how someone "Suddenly" shouts, as if with no forewarning, which seeing one just before would be...Especially if the "We" (soon we see) implies that everyone saw the sedan. So why would someone then shout "Look!", after everyone saw it coming, that there was a camaro coming up behind the van?
Plus he calls it a sedan, which is a no-no if it is indeed a Camaro(IMO, I know what it means).
Now, you could very well be correct, but don't state it in such a manner when it can so easily be argued the other way.
PS, and sorry if I missed it or am too stupid to figure it out, what does "IVER" stand for?
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05-20-2008 | 06:51 PM
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See ya there Bob.
Yeah, I'll take on that B2300 of yours, but in order to avoid any possible embarrassment to myself, I insist on a very twisty bit of pavement. And maybe a headstart.
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05-20-2008 | 06:57 PM
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I just re-read it myself and it is a bit confusing.
I was in the back of the shuttle, so I didn't see much for oncoming cars tooling around the grounds. So, if I read it right the second time, there was a sedan that passed us in the oncoming lane before we saw the two IVER cars behind the shuttle. Since I was in the back, the IVER cars were the only things I was paying attention to.
Heh...I used to know but forgot myself. Someone will chime in.
I was in the back of the shuttle, so I didn't see much for oncoming cars tooling around the grounds. So, if I read it right the second time, there was a sedan that passed us in the oncoming lane before we saw the two IVER cars behind the shuttle. Since I was in the back, the IVER cars were the only things I was paying attention to.
PS, and sorry if I missed it or am too stupid to figure it out, what does "IVER" stand for?
05-20-2008 | 07:05 PM
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Not even close....
Runner lengths, orientation, and volume are no where near identical. Plenum volume on the crossram is much greater and the upper plate bolt pattern is different also the thermostat location on a true crossram is on the front of the manifold, not on the top.
Runner lengths, orientation, and volume are no where near identical. Plenum volume on the crossram is much greater and the upper plate bolt pattern is different also the thermostat location on a true crossram is on the front of the manifold, not on the top.
It was based off of the crossram and then made to work with TBI, so says the engineer in one of my many Camaro books.Z284, does it still have the original exhaust with the pipe separated mufflers?