A few price concerns...
07-25-2008 | 03:15 PM
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07-26-2008 | 12:31 AM
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Hey all, looong time reader, first time poster here!
Let me start by saying that I realize pricing will be the last part of the puzzle and that no pricing is set.
Let me follow that by stating I am a Camaro enthusiast, and do not intend to complain or slam GM in any way with this post. The car is absolutely stunning so far!
My concern:
We've been told that this car will be priced comparable to the Mustang. I was very optimistic that I could pick up a V8 for at or near 30G, regardless if it was "top dog" or not.
Do you think GM is going to price the 300 HP V6 with the Mustang GT? And the SS with the GT500 range. Call me crazy, I just think a 422 HP machine will be a lil more than 30G. Like maybe the in the 40G range.
I intended on buying a V8 and still hope to do so, however 40,000 is a lil over my price range. I will say a 300HP V6 with a 6 speed and an RS package is something to think about, but is 30G a lil much for a V6? And will you lose street cred running around in a V6 with the LS3 also on the streets?
I love this new camaro and fully intend to order one as soon as we can. I just hope Chevy realizes that when this car hits the roads, they will have competiton in the price dept. Something Ford didnt have when the new Stang hit the streets....
Worse case scenerio, I'llbe looking for a 2002 SLP SS in Sunburst Orange Metallic, but I'm not throwing in the towel on ordering a 5th gen.
And i WILL NOT defunct to another manufacturer...
Oh yeah,
Thanks Team Camaro! Job well done!
Let me start by saying that I realize pricing will be the last part of the puzzle and that no pricing is set.
Let me follow that by stating I am a Camaro enthusiast, and do not intend to complain or slam GM in any way with this post. The car is absolutely stunning so far!
My concern:
We've been told that this car will be priced comparable to the Mustang. I was very optimistic that I could pick up a V8 for at or near 30G, regardless if it was "top dog" or not.
Do you think GM is going to price the 300 HP V6 with the Mustang GT? And the SS with the GT500 range. Call me crazy, I just think a 422 HP machine will be a lil more than 30G. Like maybe the in the 40G range.
I intended on buying a V8 and still hope to do so, however 40,000 is a lil over my price range. I will say a 300HP V6 with a 6 speed and an RS package is something to think about, but is 30G a lil much for a V6? And will you lose street cred running around in a V6 with the LS3 also on the streets?
I love this new camaro and fully intend to order one as soon as we can. I just hope Chevy realizes that when this car hits the roads, they will have competiton in the price dept. Something Ford didnt have when the new Stang hit the streets....
Worse case scenerio, I'llbe looking for a 2002 SLP SS in Sunburst Orange Metallic, but I'm not throwing in the towel on ordering a 5th gen.
And i WILL NOT defunct to another manufacturer...
Oh yeah,
Thanks Team Camaro! Job well done!
This car will be amazingly affordable -- esp. when you realize what comes standard with the car-- and the comfort in driving it day in and day out......
07-26-2008 | 01:29 AM
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Rather than start a separate thread, I, too want to air my price concerns for Camaro's price, if or when, it arrives in Australia.
Holden have a habit of pricing vehicles at Holden/HSV friendly prices (i.e. above the RRP of these vehicles)... so to guarantee Camaro of good sales, please GM, price it reasonably. By that I mean at prices in line with the previous Monaro.
I did read an article some time back about Denny Mooney stating the car could be priced at very affordable levels - $AUD 50K was mentioned which is about right for the V6 (Aussies always pay too much for their cars even though our $AUD is now at parity with the $USD). If the Camaro is $AUD 80K or above then I do seriously believe that GM isn't serious about selling Camaro downunder. At those prices it would be competing with the smaller luxury Euro marques... and also Cadillac (when it does arrive downunder). It would be an opportunity lost for GM to establish itself in the Australian market if it were priced outside its target market IMO... and I consider myself its target market.
Otherwise, it's the HSV R8 which would be my only other choice.
Thanks for listening.
Holden have a habit of pricing vehicles at Holden/HSV friendly prices (i.e. above the RRP of these vehicles)... so to guarantee Camaro of good sales, please GM, price it reasonably. By that I mean at prices in line with the previous Monaro.
I did read an article some time back about Denny Mooney stating the car could be priced at very affordable levels - $AUD 50K was mentioned which is about right for the V6 (Aussies always pay too much for their cars even though our $AUD is now at parity with the $USD). If the Camaro is $AUD 80K or above then I do seriously believe that GM isn't serious about selling Camaro downunder. At those prices it would be competing with the smaller luxury Euro marques... and also Cadillac (when it does arrive downunder). It would be an opportunity lost for GM to establish itself in the Australian market if it were priced outside its target market IMO... and I consider myself its target market.
Otherwise, it's the HSV R8 which would be my only other choice.
Thanks for listening.
07-26-2008 | 01:51 AM
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even though it was in english, i didnt understand any of that.
07-27-2008 | 08:24 AM
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By "HSV friendly prices", I mean bloody expensive! If Camaro V8 is priced above HSV entry level prices, then I don't think it will sell in great numbers.
Monaro was cheaper than the entry level HSV model, which was the Clubsport. I would hope the Camaro V8 is priced at the same level as Monaro (e.g. below the cheapest HSV model).
Looking back, I think my initial post was worded quite poorly.
Monaro was cheaper than the entry level HSV model, which was the Clubsport. I would hope the Camaro V8 is priced at the same level as Monaro (e.g. below the cheapest HSV model).
Looking back, I think my initial post was worded quite poorly.
07-27-2008 | 02:37 PM
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By "HSV friendly prices", I mean bloody expensive! If Camaro V8 is priced above HSV entry level prices, then I don't think it will sell in great numbers.
Monaro was cheaper than the entry level HSV model, which was the Clubsport. I would hope the Camaro V8 is priced at the same level as Monaro (e.g. below the cheapest HSV model).
Looking back, I think my initial post was worded quite poorly.
Monaro was cheaper than the entry level HSV model, which was the Clubsport. I would hope the Camaro V8 is priced at the same level as Monaro (e.g. below the cheapest HSV model).
Looking back, I think my initial post was worded quite poorly.
08-15-2008 | 05:14 PM
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https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=628241
says "SS - 400 or 422 horsepower 6.2 V8, 20-inch aluminum wheels, SS-unique front fascia, SS Spoiler..."
RS Appearance Package HID headlamps, spoiler on LT model..."
08-16-2008 | 11:20 AM
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And in Canada the price rape continues...
Rather than start a separate thread, I, too want to air my price concerns for Camaro's price, if or when, it arrives in Australia.
Holden have a habit of pricing vehicles at Holden/HSV friendly prices (i.e. above the RRP of these vehicles)... so to guarantee Camaro of good sales, please GM, price it reasonably. By that I mean at prices in line with the previous Monaro.
I did read an article some time back about Denny Mooney stating the car could be priced at very affordable levels - $AUD 50K was mentioned which is about right for the V6 (Aussies always pay too much for their cars even though our $AUD is now at parity with the $USD). If the Camaro is $AUD 80K or above then I do seriously believe that GM isn't serious about selling Camaro downunder. At those prices it would be competing with the smaller luxury Euro marques... and also Cadillac (when it does arrive downunder). It would be an opportunity lost for GM to establish itself in the Australian market if it were priced outside its target market IMO... and I consider myself its target market.
Otherwise, it's the HSV R8 which would be my only other choice.
Thanks for listening.
Holden have a habit of pricing vehicles at Holden/HSV friendly prices (i.e. above the RRP of these vehicles)... so to guarantee Camaro of good sales, please GM, price it reasonably. By that I mean at prices in line with the previous Monaro.
I did read an article some time back about Denny Mooney stating the car could be priced at very affordable levels - $AUD 50K was mentioned which is about right for the V6 (Aussies always pay too much for their cars even though our $AUD is now at parity with the $USD). If the Camaro is $AUD 80K or above then I do seriously believe that GM isn't serious about selling Camaro downunder. At those prices it would be competing with the smaller luxury Euro marques... and also Cadillac (when it does arrive downunder). It would be an opportunity lost for GM to establish itself in the Australian market if it were priced outside its target market IMO... and I consider myself its target market.
Otherwise, it's the HSV R8 which would be my only other choice.
Thanks for listening.
I fully expect the LS to be about 32k (CAD)...the SS will top out at about 45k (CAD)...you call that affordable?
Look at the G8 as an example of how GM will screw Canadians.
08-16-2008 | 12:09 PM
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AS per my previous rants, I fully expect Canadians to get raped at the dealership too..we pay 20%+ more than Americans for cars while our dollar is worth as much or more and we are building the fraking thing!
I fully expect the LS to be about 32k (CAD)...the SS will top out at about 45k (CAD)...you call that affordable?
Look at the G8 as an example of how GM will screw Canadians.
I fully expect the LS to be about 32k (CAD)...the SS will top out at about 45k (CAD)...you call that affordable?
Look at the G8 as an example of how GM will screw Canadians.
08-18-2008 | 10:11 PM
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08-19-2008 | 04:29 PM
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since it will be pretty much identicle to the GXP in content i fully expect GXP-like pricing- that is unless they WANT the G8 and GXP to fail. I expect the weaker engine/automatic to be just above the G8 in pricing as well with the manual LS3 model at GXP level. some people might think the G8/GXP should cost a lot more because it has 4 doors, but i think thats irrelevent because the camaro will be a little more sporty in styling and performance. Also, if you look at the 2 door civic vs 4-door civic, they are within $300 of each other so the convenience of 4 doors doesnt exactly make the prices go up THAT much.
08-19-2008 | 05:04 PM
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since it will be pretty much identicle to the GXP in content i fully expect GXP-like pricing- that is unless they WANT the G8 and GXP to fail. I expect the weaker engine/automatic to be just above the G8 in pricing as well with the manual LS3 model at GXP level. some people might think the G8/GXP should cost a lot more because it has 4 doors, but i think thats irrelevent because the camaro will be a little more sporty in styling and performance. Also, if you look at the 2 door civic vs 4-door civic, they are within $300 of each other so the convenience of 4 doors doesnt exactly make the prices go up THAT much.