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Old 01-07-2006 | 05:34 PM
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Re: a Finished 5th Gen....???

Here are some concepts I put together:











Sorry for the bad job. I just threw something together real quick..

I tried stripes as well on there, but it came out like crap so I just gave up on that. I just changed the color and tinted the windows a bit.

Enjoy ~

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Old 01-07-2006 | 05:35 PM
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The location of this scoop is much more functional than the one on the 4th gen SS.....which was actually in a low pressure area....until about 125 mph anyway LOL!
I know Doug, but they could easily plumb the cowl to function in the other location of low pressure.
It just don't look copestetic(sp ) on a Camaro..
Old 01-07-2006 | 05:39 PM
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I don't care what color they paint it, I want it.
Old 01-07-2006 | 05:40 PM
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Truthfully, myself, I'm in love with how it looks and can't wait to own one myself. For those that don't like it so much, get over it and stop being so negative against GM, atleast the Camaro is coming back, maybe you'll like the 6th gen better, but the fact that it's back is enough to be excited about.
Old 01-07-2006 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SNEAKY NEIL
That's what I have been saying and also what I am afraid of. How is this car going to appeal to anyone besides Camaro fans or people who might consider a Mustang? It has a very narrow focus and I don't see anyone who owns imports going to buy this car and that is where Chevy needs to draw in people. I thought that was one of thier goals? That old, crappy retro interior is not going to draw in any people either. I hope they change that with the quickness because that could be a real deal breaker in my opinion.

It looks like the car is pretty tall too. Look at the distance between the wheel well and the top fender surface, it is huge. I was hoping for a lean, slick car but that is not going to happen it looks like. I guess fat, bloated cars are the way to go now. Damn I am crabby................
I mean no offense (as you're one of the select few here that I actually read their threads), and I see what you're saying, but I don't think the ricer crowd would like it anyway unless it looks and drives like a ricer. I also don't see the import tuner crowd moving to Mustangs and Challengers, so I think it's a moot point. And these cars are probably out of the kid/tuner price range anyway. What they may draw is that baby boomer who switched to imports but has fond memories for the original pony cars, which they grew up with. I just wish everyone would wait to see it in person before coming to conclusions. The video may not even be acurate as far as the production model goes. Since production is a few years off, if a retro interior is not wanted, now is the time for the public to speak up about it. A lot of people have personal preferences are are always going to hate anything from the "other" guys, so take everything with a grain of salt. Don't get upset if clubsi hates a Camaro, as I'm sure there aren't too many handa fans here!
Old 01-07-2006 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SNEAKY NEIL
No, I have shown it to many people, some with Camaros some who know nothing about cars, and none have said they liked it. That's not even an issue because of course that is just a micro example. I didn't say that what I think is based on facts, it is just what I suspect. You also can't be on this board and think that everyone is going to love it.

My question is, why would anyone who doesn't already like Camaros like this car?
The leaked concept was a pretty poor example to show to people IMO if that's what you're judging from and got feedback on. With it's broken up looks especially on the nose due to the two-styles-in-one model, even explaining that to people, made it hard to look at the thing and see much other than a screwed up model...

Everyone I've shown this new finished concept pic/video to in the last couple hours has loved it. This was mostly a handful of car guys down with my brother on a college campus (great segment for a 2009 car to shoot for) shown via IM. I'm getting nothing but very strong positive responses...

If the general buying public likes the mustang (yet would still consider a Camaro, not a Mustang-only loyalist), which they seem to despite internet crap declaring it "fugly", then I can't see how they won't like this. It has similar ideas to the Stang but looks more sleek, modern, and mean IMO. I'm betting it will be a hit...

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Old 01-07-2006 | 05:53 PM
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I think its awesome!
Old 01-07-2006 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SRFCTY
I mean no offense (as you're one of the select few here that I actually read their threads), and I see what you're saying, but I don't think the ricer crowd would like it anyway unless it looks and drives like a ricer. I also don't see the import tuner crowd moving to Mustangs and Challengers, so I think it's a moot point. And these cars are probably out of the kid/tuner price range anyway. What they may draw is that baby boomer who switched to imports but has fond memories for the original pony cars, which they grew up with. I just wish everyone would wait to see it in person before coming to conclusions. The video may not even be acurate as far as the production model goes. Since production is a few years off, if a retro interior is not wanted, now is the time for the public to speak up about it. A lot of people have personal preferences are are always going to hate anything from the "other" guys, so take everything with a grain of salt. Don't get upset if clubsi hates a Camaro, as I'm sure there aren't too many handa fans here!

honestly, you can like fwd turbo 4s all you want...... but you can't argue with 400hp if you like going fast.

I think even though they can't afford the high end Mustangs and Camaros (giggling like a kid now that I can put it together talking about new cars), they will be able to afford the V6 versions, and I think they will go for them. There really is not much out there other than the Civic. Once they get their *** handed to them by a V8 american Muscle car, they will have no choice but to respect it. If they don't, they are retarded.

Also, I think there will be some better aftermarket support this time around for the V6 versions of both. Procharger already has a V6 Mustang kit that pushes 325 hp.

To get 325 hp from a Civic, you need a whole hell of a lot. Trust me I know.
Old 01-07-2006 | 06:17 PM
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First, I LOVE the fact that the Camaro is coming back!..And I generally like what I'm seeing. But I think that with just a few changes it could be a real hit!
But as someone said, NOW is the time to give some feedback, not just blind loyalty.
With still a year or so to production, honest feedback, should be welcomed...Praise, and constructive criticism.
I want this to be more of a success than I can express, not just survive, maybe why I "seem" a little harsh..
Take all the neg comments, from whoever, with a grain of salt, we all just want it to be a genuine success, and out sell the competition.
And if done right, I will be really buying one, ASAP.
Old 01-07-2006 | 06:23 PM
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hmmm, blah.

I wonder how much it'll weigh. HP is easy, but weight can be a pain.
Old 01-07-2006 | 06:24 PM
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theres a quote in the Si forums that reads:

The upcoming Camaro, unlike the Pontiac GTO which will share the same platform, will feature an all-new line of engines from v6 to v8's. Using the latest in technology, these engines will eschew the typical musclecar rule of "no replacement for displacement" and use smaller displacement, higher specific output engines. Our inside sources reveal that these engines will be similar to the Northstar line of engines appearing in caddilacs, and less prolifically in the now defunct Oldsmobiles.

The base v6 is reputed to displace 2.8 liters, and produce somewhere in the neighborhood of 220-230hp with around 200 ft-lbs of torque. A v8 displacing between 3.7-4.0 liters and will likely produce 300hp and 260ft-lbs of torque. These engines will be mated to the all-new corporate six speed automatic, and a new generation six speed manual transmission. The new transmissions will feature aggressive gearing to off-set the likely curb weight of the camaro, which powertrain sources were informed to expect between 4100 and 4200lbs depending on options. It is rumored that the top engine might be the 469hp 4.4 liter supercharged v8 as it appears in the new STS-V since the engines are fairly similar to the all-new engines, or possibly a supercharged version of the all-new v6 or v8.

These engines will feature DOHC, Variable valve timing, variable intake, and a trick new cylinder deactivation feature for increased fuel mileage. Most importantly, these new engines should safely meet the next teir of emissions requirements and certification, something that the current LS based small blocks are reportedly having a tough time doing. What future ramifications this may have on the upcoming all new GTO, we are unsure (Our sources suspect that the platform will continue as the "Firebird" and move to the new engines).

Sources were quoted as saying "The upper management wants to focus on economy and emmissions primarily in the new upcoming cars and engines. Their focus studies show that performance is no longer important to the typical car buyer and are willing to sacrifice a little to obtain 29-30mpg out of a "sporty" model." Our sources report that the target performance for the v8 is 29mpg Highway mileage, 0-60 in under 7 seconds, and the quater-mile in around 15 seconds. The chasis will be tuned for maximum handling performance. "If they want traditional v8 performance and less than great mileage, they'll just buy a pick-up truck" our source quipped.

The all new engines, due to it's small physical size, will likely also appear in smaller, front wheel drive applications with diminished power outputs, and may also be available in the Colorado and Canyon twins after a scheduled platform update in 2009.

Code name for the all new engines family is the acronym AKCUS (pronounced similar to "access" and is likely to change), but the powertrain team has given it the latin name of cave fatuis, due to the important role these engines will have in determining the future at GM.
is this true at all? I hope not. with all the aftermarket an LS based engine brings you would think chevy would put one of them in there.

Now, my personal opinion is it looks completely awesome. I hope they make some slight changes to the grill area but the rest of the car looks great. maybe by the time 2010 rolls around I'll be able to buy one in their 2nd or 3rd year
Old 01-07-2006 | 06:26 PM
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There's SO much wrong in that I can't even find a place to start......I'm laughing too hard....
Old 01-07-2006 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Zigroid
theres a quote in the Si forums that reads:



is this true at all? I hope not. with all the aftermarket an LS based engine brings you would think chevy would put one of them in there.
Don't worry about that...it's a load of crap.
Old 01-07-2006 | 06:32 PM
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what do you think Charlie? I love it!! Very bad-***.
Old 01-07-2006 | 06:33 PM
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Lookin good. It needs some work, but overall its a good interpretation, and one that I would choose over the Stang or Challenger visually. The video on R&T's site gives some other angles that the front looks better in too.

Howver, the links to the article on R&T and on other sites, Cheers and Gears, Autoblog, theyre all just going to R&T's homepage now. I think the article and pic may have been taken down already.



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