Maybe he has a long drive to the track.

 

who said it was the best time? i was using that number based on what i did on the first time going to a track. i am far from the best.

i don't think comparing this car to a 4th gen (both LT1 or LS1) is dumb. it shows how the car has gotten better or not.


i don't think that guy knows what he's doing. i just don't get why you jumped my **** for me stating an opinion.

 

You ran a 13.8 in a bone-stock LT1 on your first try? Maybe I'm mistaken, but I don't think it gets much better than that.

There's nothing dumb about comparing 4th gens to 5th gens. There is something dumb about comparing against a time that is clearly not representative of what this car can do in the hands of a skilled driver.

I'm just making conversation -- I certainly don't think I "jumped your ****".

Regardless, I reacted the way I did because you used the smiley.

 

yes i did.

isn't that comparing? seems it is to me.



you rolled your eyes back at me like i was insulting you or something. that to me is "jumping my ****"

you could've disagreed with me without resorting to that.

 

I took what you said the same as Jake.

Whether you think it or not, by using the you implied that the 5th Gen wasn't impressive by comparing it to a 4th Gen LT1. The comparison doesn't make any sense to me either, because like Jake said, it's comparing a horrible time for the 5th gen to possibly the best recorded time ever for a LT1 4th. Stupid comparison. I've seen Z06s run 14s at the track. If I were to say, "Wow that Z06 is on par with a 4th Gen LT1 " people might take offense to what I said and "jump on my @$$" because everyone knows the driver in the Z06 sucked and the Z06 is a much faster car, and they might think I was being a sarcastic *****.

The bottom line is that we all know the timeslip wasn't impressive, and we all know the 5th gen is faster than a LT1 4th gen. Your comment WAS sarcastic BECAUSE you used the rolleyes. You can argue til you're blue in the face but it doesn't change how people viewed what you said.

If you had worded your post differently, or if you decided against using the smiley, then there wouldn't have been a problem. The problem here doesn't lie with Jake, the problem begins with your post.

 

Yeah, it's a comparison, but not a useful one.

I felt that you were insulting the guy that ran the 13.6, for not already knowing how to get a good run out of the car before he ever made a pass. He's not here to defend himself, so I'm doing it.

A friend of mine took his '05 GTO to the track for the first time, and his first pass was a 15.xx. We had a good laugh about it, but I certainly didn't roll my eyes at him. I just told him what I could that I thought might help (specifically, that I saw a lot of tire spin and that it sounded like he was shifting really slowly) and sent him back to the staging lanes.

If I had rolled my eyes and said "oh man, GTOs are so slow", I would absolutely have expected him to roll his eyes right back at me.

 

There is a really good reason why you want to be down right extreme when breaking in an egine. You need the rings to seal completely by scrubing as hard as they can under load to mate correctly with the cylinder walls. This is best accomplished at max rpm for the first 20 miles. By 20 miles the extremely rough edge on the cylinders walls will be gone. Just reving in place will not put as much pressure on the rings as driving does. Seems weird, but that's what they do with airplane engines. They first run them up to 80% on the ground to check everything. Then they fly them flat out for a few hours right by the airport in case something goes wrong and they have to land.

Hal

 

Seeing as how these #'s are from a known con artist trying to sell me tens of thousands of dollars worth of mods I'm going to take them with a grain of salt.

 

I agree. When I bought my SS I was hitting the redline in a cloud of smoke leaving the dealership.
I cant imagine what the all the sales people and the insurance guy were thinking as i drove away. Anyhow my SS has close to 90k on the clock with lots of racing on nher and its just as fast as the day I bought it. For a 98 it dynoed 313 rwhp and 331 for the torque bone stock. The best run at the dragstrip was a 13.4 at 107 mph with a 2.0 60 ft.

 

Those are very good numbers. If you hadn't mentioned it was a '98 I would have thought for sure it was an '01 or '02.

 

Well.....you can then 'honestly' say that the new aftermarket engine cover they developed, ran 4 tenths faster than stock.

 

as someone posted below the video... He did a burnout on STREET tires. Unless I missed something, not DOT or Slicks... A BURNOUT ON STREET TIRES IN THE WATER CAN HURT YOUR TIME!!!

Street tire burnouts can turn the ruber to gum and give them less grip. Whats worse is he did it in the water which throws the water up in the wheel wells unnecessarily. That water drips on the tires while youre waiting on the tree and can cause a bad launch.

Yeah it looks cool and may be good marketing for how much their products will be perceived as that much improvement but moral is if you have street tires stay out of the water box!

 

Yea that is a good point.

He seems to be leaving a lot on the table. He can give credit to his go fast parts instead of actually driving the car to the best of its abilities.

“Look my cold air kit and exhaust gained .7 and 4 mph!” -There are some who will buy that.

 

wow. i never implied anything. i stated that time was crap. i even stated the 5th gen is better so how can i imply that the 5th gen isn't impressive when i said otherwise?

 

I want my tires to turn to "gum" at the dragstrip. However, nothing is going to do that to stock street tires. Doing a burnout with them is fairly useless, but it isn't going to hurt traction either.

Different story of course if water was still in the tread or in the wheelwell and then dripped down on the starting line (either from the front or rear tires)....as you stated.

Obviously the ET & MPH from that one car is NOT what a 5th Gen should be expected to run in decent conditions with a decent driver. For example, not long after they came out, I saw two (2) stock 03 Cobra's run 14.3 & 14.4 at ~105 mph side by side down National Trail Raceway near Columbus, Ohio. That's certainly not representative of what the cars were capable of.

Won't be long at all till we see the first 12 at over 110 mph. Good drivers in good air at good tracks will go pretty deep into the 12s at a much better mph.