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Old 05-23-2008, 05:43 PM
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actuall if you have ever riden in a GTO i think you will agree that having the window switcehs in the center is an awesome feature. It is very accessible and makes the door look 100% better. If the interior is close ( in quality) to the GTO i will love it.
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Old 05-23-2008, 06:03 PM
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The wife's beemer had them in the center. I prefer them in the door.

Personal preference.....certainly not a deal breaker for ANY car I might buy.
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When i ride in my friends GTO...and i go to put my window down, i have to 'invade his space' and used to bump arms, ugh. Now i just say dude put my window down! If they were to be in the center...i hope they'd be seperated so a reach over is not required!

Someone spill half a bean damnit...at least give us the last two #s in the curb weight!
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Old 05-23-2008, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by QATransAm
Someone spill half a bean damnit...at least give us the last two #s in the curb weight!
V8 Auto - 14
V8 Manual - 77

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Old 05-23-2008, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisL
V8 Auto - 3814
V8 Manual - 3877

That's my bet.
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Old 05-23-2008, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
I have no issues with the looks of the car - I like it.
Fast is relative. Will have to wait and see. I think we can be pretty confident that GM won't disappoint us in the power department, so that should be a non-issue?
Handling is relative. Will have to wait and see. Well, Elie & Art apparently thought the handling was impressive, and I'd trust the opinions of guys who ACTUALLY DO take their Camaros onto race tracks .
Comfortable - probably won't have any issues with that either.

So for me, the "major bases" aren't close to being covered yet. Having been no closer to driving this car than ~99.9% of the members on this board (excluding a lucky few), I'm pretty confident that those MAJOR POINTS are probably going to satisfy everyone (unless you're the type who can't be pleased, regardless of what is put in front of you ). But like you said, I guess we'll have to wait and see?
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V8 Auto - 14
V8 Manual - 77

Hmmm .

V8 Man. - 3577
V8 Auto - 3614

Do I win the gold star?
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Originally Posted by Capn Pete
Hmmm .

V8 Man. - 3577
V8 Auto - 3614

Do I win the gold star?
Be realistic. Look at the G8 curb weight.
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Old 05-24-2008, 12:03 AM
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I have a question for the disciples.

How would you compare the ingress and egress of the Camaro with the Corvette? What about when you get inside? Is it close in size?

I'm over 6ft tall and a good bit over 300 pounds. I can get in and out of a Vette, but it ain't fun or easy. When I do get inside, it is a bit cramped. There is enough leg room and head room, but torso room is a bit tight.

After years of being a strong Impala fan, I'm looking more seriously at the Camaro these days.
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Old 05-24-2008, 01:31 AM
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Is it allowable to ask if the two V-8's the group got to drive were the same motor? Just curious with the two V-6 model thing floating around.
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Old 05-24-2008, 02:33 AM
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2nd gen F-bodies had the window switches on the console.
Jeep Libertys have them on the console.

I can say that I did not like either placements. As a matter of fact, I downright hated it.
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Old 05-24-2008, 04:59 AM
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did the third gens have them in the center? seems like I remember my sisters firebird having them in the center...
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Old 05-24-2008, 06:08 AM
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Yes, all Thirds had them on the center console. I myself like them there, but in Third Gen style though. Not like the GTO's with the buttons right next to each other way over by the driver. They were further back and each button was right next to where both passengers were, with the hatch release button in the middle.

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Old 05-24-2008, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Capn Pete
I think we can be pretty confident that GM won't disappoint us in the power department, so that should be a non-issue?
I have no doubt GM will come through in the power dept. Never been a concern. Unfortunately, and as evidenced by the nearly-two ton GT500, there is more to it than just a HP or TQ number. So yes, unfortunately it is a potential issue for at least some (quite likely a small minority).

Elie & Art apparently thought the handling was impressive, and I'd trust the opinions of guys who ACTUALLY DO take their Camaros onto race tracks.
What is "impressive"? I'm sure it will handle well.

Having been no closer to driving this car than ~99.9% of the members on this board (excluding a lucky few), I'm pretty confident that those MAJOR POINTS are probably going to satisfy everyone (unless you're the type who can't be pleased, regardless of what is put in front of you).
Cool. I hope the car is a big hit. I hope my concerns are unfounded. The problem is that my "major points" and yours are likely different, or at least have somewhat different thresholds.

But like you said, I guess we'll have to wait and see?
Correct. We can agree.

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Hmmm .

V8 Man. - 3577
V8 Auto - 3614

Do I win the gold star?
More like a gold dream - but it sure would be a VERY pleasant surprise.

Originally Posted by ChrisL
Be realistic. Look at the G8 curb weight.
The G8 weighs in at 3995 lbs. Substituting some numbers here gives us...

V8 Auto - 3914
V8 Manual - 3977

Boy I hope not. I really do.

Bob
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Old 05-24-2008, 07:22 AM
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That's my bet.
I'll bet the auto is heavier than the manual.
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Old 05-24-2008, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
The G8 weighs in at 3995 lbs. Substituting some numbers here gives us...

V8 Auto - 3914
V8 Manual - 3977

Boy I hope not. I really do.

Bob

Just a matter of how much the ol' Sawzall will do...gotta put this fatty on a diet, only problem is you have to buy her first and hope you can convince her to lose some weight!




I know this is most likely a no...but i wonder if anyone brought up the possibility of a solid axle swap, not as an option, just if there might be limited fabrication involved. Like a Terminator 8.8 swap.
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