Forget Z/28 vs. SS...Here's an alternative lineup idea
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Forget Z/28 vs. SS...Here's an alternative lineup idea
This thought occurred to me late last night.
With all the debate about what trim level will be the top dog, and what engines will be in what trim level, maybe a little outside-the-box thinking is needed.
We know the LS8 is intended for the Camaro. We also know that some sort of base model V8 (possibly the LS3) will make it's way into the Camaro.
What about a third engine, say, the direct-injection 4.9L found in the GMC Yukon Denali XT concept truck? For sh*ts and giggles, we'll say GM markets it as a 5.0L, or 302 ci.
With rumors of a new Trans-Am series pitting the Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, and possibly foreign competitors against each other, along with the announcement of a new "Boss" 302 from Ford going into the Mustang, could we see the Z/28 return to its roots as a road-racer for the street?
This raises the question - What will the "top dog" be, if the Z/28 is out of the picture? My guess is that the SS would end up being the base model V8, while a legendary name among Camaro enthusiasts would get the LS8 - ZL1.
I could be completely incorrect, but it would certainly be an awesome Camaro lineup, and it would give the Camaro some special cars to compete with the Mustang's various special editions.
With all the debate about what trim level will be the top dog, and what engines will be in what trim level, maybe a little outside-the-box thinking is needed.
We know the LS8 is intended for the Camaro. We also know that some sort of base model V8 (possibly the LS3) will make it's way into the Camaro.
What about a third engine, say, the direct-injection 4.9L found in the GMC Yukon Denali XT concept truck? For sh*ts and giggles, we'll say GM markets it as a 5.0L, or 302 ci.
With rumors of a new Trans-Am series pitting the Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, and possibly foreign competitors against each other, along with the announcement of a new "Boss" 302 from Ford going into the Mustang, could we see the Z/28 return to its roots as a road-racer for the street?
This raises the question - What will the "top dog" be, if the Z/28 is out of the picture? My guess is that the SS would end up being the base model V8, while a legendary name among Camaro enthusiasts would get the LS8 - ZL1.
I could be completely incorrect, but it would certainly be an awesome Camaro lineup, and it would give the Camaro some special cars to compete with the Mustang's various special editions.
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MY feeling is that it will go along with the past couple of generations. All V8's will be Z28's and SS will be a step up from that. That may not sit well with some here, but that's the RECENT history of Camaros.
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Clyde
#4
Anyways, that's not how it'll play out. My big concern though, is that the Z/28 will morph into a sort of Camaro GT500.
#5
I want to be able to say "I've got a Z28."
But I won't ba able to afford that 'Camaro GT500'.........
I really think the Z28 moniker should be a - relatively speaking - high volume name...leave the GT500 fighters called something else, and let the 'normal' V8s be called Z28. You can't mistake which car a Z28 is............
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This thought occurred to me late last night.
With all the debate about what trim level will be the top dog, and what engines will be in what trim level, maybe a little outside-the-box thinking is needed.
We know the LS8 is intended for the Camaro. We also know that some sort of base model V8 (possibly the LS3) will make it's way into the Camaro.
What about a third engine, say, the direct-injection 4.9L found in the GMC Yukon Denali XT concept truck? For sh*ts and giggles, we'll say GM markets it as a 5.0L, or 302 ci.
With rumors of a new Trans-Am series pitting the Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, and possibly foreign competitors against each other, along with the announcement of a new "Boss" 302 from Ford going into the Mustang, could we see the Z/28 return to its roots as a road-racer for the street?
This raises the question - What will the "top dog" be, if the Z/28 is out of the picture? My guess is that the SS would end up being the base model V8, while a legendary name among Camaro enthusiasts would get the LS8 - ZL1.
I could be completely incorrect, but it would certainly be an awesome Camaro lineup, and it would give the Camaro some special cars to compete with the Mustang's various special editions.
With all the debate about what trim level will be the top dog, and what engines will be in what trim level, maybe a little outside-the-box thinking is needed.
We know the LS8 is intended for the Camaro. We also know that some sort of base model V8 (possibly the LS3) will make it's way into the Camaro.
What about a third engine, say, the direct-injection 4.9L found in the GMC Yukon Denali XT concept truck? For sh*ts and giggles, we'll say GM markets it as a 5.0L, or 302 ci.
With rumors of a new Trans-Am series pitting the Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, and possibly foreign competitors against each other, along with the announcement of a new "Boss" 302 from Ford going into the Mustang, could we see the Z/28 return to its roots as a road-racer for the street?
This raises the question - What will the "top dog" be, if the Z/28 is out of the picture? My guess is that the SS would end up being the base model V8, while a legendary name among Camaro enthusiasts would get the LS8 - ZL1.
I could be completely incorrect, but it would certainly be an awesome Camaro lineup, and it would give the Camaro some special cars to compete with the Mustang's various special editions.
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That would be a horrible move by GM, unless the top V8 is only marginally more expensive than the base V8 (unlike what a 500+ HP beast would be). GM has built to much hype around this car to stick the same/slightly uptuned G8 engine into it, as opposed to giving the people something fresh. Unless the car is incredibly light, I will not be buying it if it has less than 400 HP in the base V8.
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400 isn't a 'easy' target to expect, imho.
The L76 already has 380 ft/lbs...which makes the butt-dyno happy...so uptuning it a little to, say, 380hp (as opposed to 361) will give you ~400ft/lbs I would think. That's MORE than most anybody would ever use regularly............
Plus you've got the whole AFM feature goin' on.
I for one, believe we will be VERY happy with the engine (and engine features ) GM chooses for the 'base' V8...
besides everything we're talking about right now(LS3/L76,etc) is useless - since we are to "forget everything we thought we knew about engines."
The L76 already has 380 ft/lbs...which makes the butt-dyno happy...so uptuning it a little to, say, 380hp (as opposed to 361) will give you ~400ft/lbs I would think. That's MORE than most anybody would ever use regularly............
Plus you've got the whole AFM feature goin' on.
I for one, believe we will be VERY happy with the engine (and engine features ) GM chooses for the 'base' V8...
besides everything we're talking about right now(LS3/L76,etc) is useless - since we are to "forget everything we thought we knew about engines."
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The ZL1 was technically a "production" car since it was possible to order one. It just wasn't mass-produced.
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