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Old 11-26-2005 | 01:34 PM
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GMs camaro problem

GMs big problem with a new camaro is CAFE. GM can not build any more cars which will hurt the CAFE because they need to sell big SUVs that also hurt their CAFE but adds profit to their bottom line. fords mustangs do not hurt ford that much because they sell a lot of V-6 ones but you can bet that if GM comes out with a camaro most all buyers will want the LS-2 or bigger engine because to most people the camaro is the poor mans corvette
Old 11-26-2005 | 01:42 PM
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Old 11-26-2005 | 01:43 PM
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Swing and a miss
Old 11-26-2005 | 02:28 PM
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Thats ok, because a LS4 or LS2 will get better EPA rating than the V6 car
Old 11-26-2005 | 02:33 PM
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Thats ok, because a LS4 or LS2 will get better EPA rating than the V6 car
lets hope they dont put a v6 in the base camaro...
Old 11-26-2005 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by NewbieWar
lets hope they dont put a v6 in the base camaro...
I saw a 4th Gen Ram AIR TA at one of the Detroit auto shows Pontiac display a few years back with a supercharged 3800 in it.
I would have purchased one in a heartbeat.
Old 11-26-2005 | 09:53 PM
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That is not even a issue where the Camaro is concerned . The LSx engines deliver in some cases better fuel mileage than 6 cyl. cars they sell in huge volumes . GM is not currently hurting on the CAFE standards

Metal - Which car was that , I'm having trouble remebering . There was a 97 red ram air Formula , and a 97 black ram air TA . One had the S/C 3800 and one had the mini-cube LT1 . I think it was the Formy that had the S/C 3800 . Couple of cool one off oddballs in Pontiac history , thats for sure .

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Old 11-26-2005 | 11:04 PM
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While all of us will buy v8's, GM will most likely sell more v6's to the masses like Ford's Stang.

Let the masses buy v6s while enthusiasts buy v8's
Old 11-27-2005 | 12:20 AM
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Without the V6, the car does not exist.
Old 11-27-2005 | 02:13 AM
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lets hope they dont put a v6 in the base camaro...

Why? The car will NOT sell with a V8 alone. Just look at the GTO.

4L Eaton V6 please.

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Old 11-27-2005 | 02:44 AM
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The creator of this thread obviously keeps very up to date with what is going on in the 5th gen community on this forum.
Old 11-27-2005 | 05:30 AM
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Yes...

The GTO sells fine. Its not ment to blow through any sales records, unless you look at how many Monaro's are actualy made for Aussie consuption compared to GTO's for America....then you could see that Holden imports about 3 times the amount of GTO's here then it sells in Down Under.

3.9 VVt V6 making 250ish hp, or if its budgetable, do the 3.6 DOHC with D/I and make 270hp with regular octane. I would be very upset if the V6 has to take high octane, and so will others.
Old 11-27-2005 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by johnsocal
While all of us will buy v8's, GM will most likely sell more v6's to the masses like Ford's Stang.

Let the masses buy v6s while enthusiasts buy v8's
Hey now, some of us V6'ers are enthusiasts too I cant help it the insurance bigots have kept me out of a Z28 for so long. But not for much longer, as has been announced in the sig
Old 11-27-2005 | 12:12 PM
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Yes...

The GTO sells fine. Its not ment to blow through any sales records, unless you look at how many Monaro's are actualy made for Aussie consuption compared to GTO's for America....then you could see that Holden imports about 3 times the amount of GTO's here then it sells in Down Under.

3.9 VVt V6 making 250ish hp, or if its budgetable, do the 3.6 DOHC with D/I and make 270hp with regular octane. I would be very upset if the V6 has to take high octane, and so will others.
If it sells so great. Why did GM cut production for 05? Exactly.

The Mustang sells 100K units a year but the GTO can barely sell 12K.
Old 11-27-2005 | 01:06 PM
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If it sells so great. Why did GM cut production for 05? Exactly.

The Mustang sells 100K units a year but the GTO can barely sell 12K.
Considering the Mustang has a V6 variant, comes in many different trim options and prices, you really don't have to look hard to see why something like that would sell more than a "fully-loaded only" V8 high hp, sports car.



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