But dealers also get bulk discounts under invoice pricing. So they're not exactly just making X amount over invoice on every car.

 

This is my first post here as a lurker of several months.... I dont think asking $500 to $1000 over invoice is to much to ask. My father has been a Kawasaki dealer at the same dealership now for all of my 31 years of life, and that is the way they do business. They dont work on commission, go for gross sells, and sell most of there motorcycles, watercraft, or atvs at $200-$500 over invoice. There is customers that come there because of it, and have brought in alot of traffic becuase of word of mouth. They are still making money for the dealership, and themselves. So trying to get as close to invoice is not taking money off someone else plate just means they have to work harder for their money, and you get a great deal. That is not to much to ask....

 

Yea an hour of his time I guess that the building, property, taxes, various insurances, the salesmans paycheck, money to buy the cars from GM, maintenance on property, and fuel for said cars must be free.

Out of curiosity how many of you own your own buisness that think you know how much they should be making on each car? Every dealership is a different situation i.e. mortgages could be more or less and insurance depending on location. Everyone goes in there to beat them down on the price, then wants every little squeak fixed for nothing.

Also weren't you the one that said in the other thread that its ok to pay MSRP? Now you just want it $1000 over invoice?

 

I dont know about that part. When the 05 Mustangs came out, demand was so high one salesman acted as if I was lucky to even see the V6 convertible on his lot that was already ordered. Now I get incentive emails from ford that every once in a while, list the GT as included. So it seems to me demand has dropped a bit to where the Ford Mustang GT's dont seem to be worth their weight in gold anymore. Long Term yes... Never come? Im not so sure and I am hoping not. Also I have over 2 G in GM points on a GM Card I have had since 2003 that I signed up for, for no other purpose than this Camaro in Blue :P. Id be disapointed if the rewards of 5 years of that creditcard were COMPLETELY wasted when I could have had stuff like rewards for starbucks coffee which is better than nothing...

 

Sorry but you people who suggest not trying to get as good a deal as possible for yourselves are nuts! Thanks for the invoice pricing this will help me negotiate.