jg95z28

Yes.

Captain Jeff Z28

Can someone update me on this?

As far as American Cars go, what is the fastest production car on the road then as far as 0-60, 1/4 mile and top speed, etc.?

I'm assuming it goes Z06, GT500, Viper as the top three, but what kind of test numbers are there??

In other words, is the Z06 the .....fastest American car? Who has the belt?

Jeff

skorpion317

If i'm not mistaken, the Saleen S7 Twin Turbo holds that title. it does the 1/4 in 10.9 seconds @ 140 MPH. Top speed is 248 MPH, with a 0-60 time of 3.4 seconds. Pulls 1.04 g's on the skidpad.

LandonElf

According to the magazines (ick) the vette beats out the gt500 in pretty much all of the categories. The SRT10 seems to be very similar in performance while the gt500 can not really be compared to the Z06, its more of a base vette competitor (sort of).

A better comparision would be between the Ford GT, Viper SRT10, and Corvette Z06. But the prices go (respectively) approximately 151000+, 85000, and 65000. So its really unfair to to compare the three.

Either way, the Z06 has gained a reputation of beating the SRT10 in many categories despite its 20K price difference, and even manages to give the Ford GT very little breathing room.

So who's the fastest? I honestly have never seen a race between all three at once so i don't know. If i saw a race like that i would probably either faint or urinate upon myself, probably both. But without a doubt, the most car for the money in this niche would absolutely be the Corvette Z06

JakeRobb

GT500 is not in the same class as the Ford GT, Z06, and Viper. It's too heavy to compete with those cars.

DvBoard

what about the regular vette? i mean it has 100 more hp than the "normal" vette (and still doesn't perform as good ).

JakeRobb

The GT500 weights about 800 pounds more than a base C6 (3900 vs 3100... rough estimates). The extra horsepower, according to the acceleration numbers I've seen, isn't quite enough to compensate.

yell-01vette

Guy, I know you know your stuff, so I'm not trying to go after you, but...

Don't you think that closer to half of the Challengers made will be the super version? As a limited production car, it'll have to be pretty expensive in base trim alone, and wouldn't that likely make the incremental increase in price to add, say, 100+ horse for another 5 g's on top of the 35-40k sticker seem like a pretty good deal?

I'm in the finance business, and many (most) buyers are payment driven, add 12-24 months and that 5 grand almost (to the foolish) disappears...

Similar (but not exactly comparable) to how the GTOs didnt sell well until the LS2 came over, the cat was out of the bag and it wasn't much more expensive.

Regardless, I think it'll be more than 5%. Too many hemi-loving good-ole boys runnning around, IMO.

Preach on, brother...

guionM

Good points, and the SRT could verywell end up with a higher number. But SRT is based on the Ford SVT model: keep production artificially limited to keep value up. Ford could almost certainly sell as many Cobras (or GT500s) as Pontiac sells GTOs (15-18,000). But keeps it artificially limited to 9-10K. Bullits were kept at around 5-8K if I remember, and Mach 1s were kept well under 10K annually. The 1K number I mentioned is probally low, but don't expect more than 3K SRT Challengers.

guionM

Actually, the GTOs started selling well around August/September 2004 when GM included them with the employee pricing scheme and finally started to get ahold of dealer scalping. The best sales months GTO ever had was towards the end of the '04's model run in the fall of 2004.

The 2005 LS2 GTO's sales were more stable, running around 1000-1200 per month (the '04s with the LS1 ranged wildly from a few hundred to well over 2000 per month).

number77

A mosler could probably take that. There are probably even some lesser known car companies out there making things even faster.

Example: A hole in the wall place, in Germany, that most people have never heard of, makes a 1100hp 1300lb tq Cobra.
That's what 780cu.in will get you. In the right hands, it could get more. With power adders, even still more.

What about that quiet company in Chicago that had that 2-speed 2000hp Viper?
Then you get into the manufacturer/tuner debate, with everything in between.

SSbaby

Dunno... but I've been told GM don't lose horsepower wars... and Ford is generally getting sand kicked in its face from both GM and DC.

DrewSG

In what world?

Ron78Z&01SS

Why is it that almost every topic on the 5th Gen forum has at least one post of someone getting their panties in a wad over whether the Z28 or SS will be "top dog"?

Will the designation make a difference as to whether or not someone will buy it? Of course not! I could freaking care less if the top engine was only available in the RS (or even a "Camaro" with no extra designation for that matter).

The important thing first is that they actually make the 5th Gen and hopefully carry through with making it available with one bad-@ss engine.

If this Z28 (or whatever they call it) is available on a limited basis like the Z06, I'm sure we can look forward to anywhere between $10,000-$20,000 gouging from the dealers similar to what they did with the Z06. That would be a real shame

Good Ph.D

Weight has nothing to do with what class its in. Those three are built from the ground up with performance in mind. The GT500 has to do the best it can with bones that are made to sell to as many people as possible.

This is an enthusiast board and enthusiast tend to take spiritual things like that seriously. It wouldn't be so bad if they weren't so many 16 y/o swearing SS is better because they can only remember back to 1993.