I dislike the very idea of 20s, 21s, 22s. But we're stuck with them since the base SS has 20s and the car was designed around wheels this big.

I'd love a smaller wheelwell designed to be filled out by a 18" or a 19", but it can't and won't happen.

 

i just bought custom 22's for my camaro. they weigh less than the 20's and the tires are as cheap as the 20" tires.
your right. the wheel wells need to be smaller to make the smaller wheels look right. but if they did that they would have to redesign the whole car. the car is made with just the right proportions every where. you mess one of those proportions up and you have an akward looking car. they would have larger looking fenders if they tried to lower the fender well gap. then the wheels would look too small compared to the car.

 

Strip it down and drop in an LS9. DONE!

 

Sorry , "only" $445 for the rears, and $395 for the fronts . (see Tirerack). Now for a Canadian to buy those same tires would be OVER $500 for the rears, and well over $400 for the fronts. I guess my ~$500/tire figure wasn't far off, eh?

I agree with you. The wheels are proportional to the car. They're still HUGE though!! (~28" diameter compared to only ~26" diameter of the 4th-gen tires). If you put smaller wheels on the car, and made the car proportional to the wheels, then we would have a smaller car, on smaller (cheaper) wheels/tires, and we'd have a stellar performing package for a Z/28 .

You're right. CTS-V has 6-piston fronts. Camaro only has 4-piston fronts. Both are 4-piston rears. SO, I wonder if the 4-piston fronts are physically bigger than the 6-piston fronts? (less pistons, but larger diameter per piston). That MAY explain why they went with the huge 20" wheels?

Nope, they're just the Pirelli P-Zero's.

Exactly. But again, I don't think a Z/28 will be pulling the same G's as a Z06 .

 

Its interesting that folks are discussing various tire and wheel options when the original Z/28 only had 7.35X15's mounted on 15x6 steel wheels.

The point being that most Z/28 owners that "drive" them end up swapping tires and wheels anyway.

 

you gotta have a good set of wheels and tires on any performance car.

 

And at that time all other Camaros came with 14" wheels, yet the Z/28 sat about two inches lower than they did.
Clyde

 

Agreed. However my point was that the base SS wheels and tires are adequate as a starting point. To keep costs down, focus on the other areas and offer optional wheel/tire packages that focus on various areas of performance (i.e. drag, solo, all-season, summer, etc.), or simply let the buyers install their own later.

 

This is an interesting thread, but what is the target buyer, target MSRP?

Some consideration to what the MSRP will be as compared to what the person willing to spend that expects to be included in a proposed package is key.

What will the potential customer refuse to to without or refuse to put up with for the coin spent?

 

For my version (LS376/480 with mods and lightweight materials): $38,500
For LSA version (with mods and lightweight materials): $42,500

I'd be willing to accept up to $10k over the price of a SS, but not much more.
Must have over 500hp.
Must not weigh over 4100lbs.
Must blow the doors off a Mustang GT-500.

 

Here's what my Z/28 would be:
-LSA
-Z06 brakes
-suspension package offering refinement and handling (similar to CTS-V)
-CTS-V steering wheel
-more aggressive seats
-Hurst shifter
-special visual accents (badging, wider not larger wheel and tire package, subtle yet aggressive changes to fascia, rear, etc.)
-sub 8 second Nurburgring times
-high 'teen trap speeds in the 1/4.

 

I'm always reluctant to be cornered into a specific MSRP number, because so much just depends. I'd pay at least G8 GXP money - maybe more. Maybe even quite abit more for a truly superb Z/28. But it must deliver on the Z/28 promise. And that will be an uphill battle here for a variety of reasons.

First, I'm not even sure anyone involved with this progran has a really focused view of a Z/28 which shares my vision. I'd rather it were a Camaro M3 rather than a Camaro GT500. GM has been absolutely OBSESSED with it being a Camaro GT500. What a waste of time.

Anyway, right now this is all pretty theoretical. I don't see GM investing another nickel into the 5th gen. Maybe in a future time, when things are better at GM, and we have a more appropriate architecture to spin a Z/28 off of -- we'll get another chance. I sure hope so.

 

there was an article i read somewhere,i think on here, that said the z28 model was put on hold or cancelled(i know 2 different meanings) and one of the reasons was because the price of it was just too high. if it were to be 10 k over a ss model...id buy 3. i dont see if being that cheap. you have the zr1 coming in at 100k, the cts-v coming in at 70k there is no way the camaro will be 40-45k. im thinkin closer to low-mid 50k.

 

g8 gxp money i camaro ss performance.

 

The CTS-V's base MSRP is $58,575, not $70,000. A Camaro with the same drivetrain sure seems like it could start at $40,000 to $45,000.