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Old 01-16-2006 | 08:48 PM
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Re: Lutz, Camaro and global RWD....

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Why would a Caddy coupe dilute the brand image?
A coupe wouldn't, but one starting in the high 20's, low 30's would. Especially with a V8.

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Old 01-16-2006 | 09:03 PM
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Re: Lutz, Camaro and global RWD....

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A coupe wouldn't, but one starting in the high 20's, low 30's would. Especially with a V8.

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Maybe low to mid 30's. I'd doubt you'd get a V8 for that though. Just guessing.
Old 01-16-2006 | 09:21 PM
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Z284ever, your posts are all cut off wierd??? Anybody else seeing this?
Old 01-16-2006 | 09:29 PM
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Re: Lutz, Camaro and global RWD....

Originally Posted by turbo96z28
good read Charlie.

one thing that stuck out to me:



what engine options do you think Lutz has in mind.

what i mean is, if they go with a V6 and two V8s, are we talking along the lines of 5.3 style engine to fill the gap between the V6 and top model V8?
he has in mind mustang Cobra GT500 as one v8...

he has in mind mustang GT as one v8

and he has a v6 planned for base...
Old 01-16-2006 | 10:47 PM
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Re: Lutz, Camaro and global RWD....

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he has in mind mustang Cobra GT500 as one v8...

he has in mind mustang GT as one v8

and he has a v6 planned for base...

so we're talkin:

V6-275hp

V8-400hp

V8-475hp?


that's a hell of a jump from V6 to V8.
Old 01-16-2006 | 11:02 PM
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I'm thinking the base V8 will have around 350. IMO, 400 is bit much to have in a base V8.

Look at what Ford is doing. You go 300HP GT, to the 475HP, and Ford will close the game will a ~380HP Boss.
Old 01-16-2006 | 11:02 PM
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I dont think it is really all that much of a jump, when you consider that a 4th gen 3800 v6 car was rated at 200hp, and a z28 was rated at 305/310. That is a difference of 105/110hp, not too far off from the 125hp difference in this scenario. It just sounds like more because you are going form a 200 number to a 400 number.
Old 01-16-2006 | 11:20 PM
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the thing i'm worried about is, what does the person that wants more than 275hp and less than 400hp?
Old 01-16-2006 | 11:32 PM
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He buys the 400hp version, and bunches the carpet up under the gas pedal so he can't go WOT. That should make everyone happy.
Old 01-17-2006 | 12:00 AM
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ok, i give.

in my demented little mind, that actually makes perfect sense.

call it a poor mans throttle stop.
Old 01-17-2006 | 12:06 AM
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Re: Lutz, Camaro and global RWD....

Originally Posted by turbo96z28
call it a poor mans throttle stop.
Or a dealer installed option for those faint of heart.
Old 01-17-2006 | 01:13 AM
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Re: Lutz, Camaro and global RWD....

Originally Posted by Z284ever
Camaro tops GM's rwd list
RWD candidates

GM may build these rwd cars.
Buick Velite convertible
Buick flagship sedan
Pontiac Grand Prix
Redesigned Pontiac GTO
Chevrolet Camaro
Chevrolet Impala
Source: Supplier sources
The funny (sad??) thing is....in our Vehicle Platform Guide we had...we called this two years ago. Man, I love how GM tries to sugar coat things.

Just admit it Lutz, the Camaro is on, the only thing stopping it is the weak *** interior shown on the concept.

Also the Camaro will start at more like $24k for a base vehicle. Me? Personally? After speaking with Mr. Berger (yes he did the Camaro Berger SS) I'd love to see the Turbo-Ecotec motor from the Solstice GXP in the car to keep it near $20k. It wouldnt be so bad to the 'normal' folk.

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Old 01-17-2006 | 01:23 AM
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Josh, I honestly belive that you have drinking, cuase I know you didnt really say that you wanted a 4 cyl in a Camaro.
With that said, I will forgive you, and let you edit it later when you wake up.
Old 01-17-2006 | 01:42 AM
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Re: Lutz, Camaro and global RWD....

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Josh, I honestly belive that you have drinking, cuase I know you didnt really say that you wanted a 4 cyl in a Camaro.
With that said, I will forgive you, and let you edit it later when you wake up.
lol... i think he is refering to having a 260 hp/260 tq base camaro...

with what lutz said about the enclave getting a 280-300hp v6... i think the v6 they put in the camaro should be ample...
Old 01-17-2006 | 12:00 PM
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Re: Lutz, Camaro and global RWD....

I dunno if the 3.6 DOHC engine will make it in there. It would be nice, but the cost of the V6 could rise. Instead of a 20-21k 3.9, we could see a 24k V6, but the power will be much higher.
What if there is a V6 that makes 300hp, and then a 395hp LS2 and then a 435hp L92 6.2?



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