The SS should see something in the 8:15 time range and the Z should see something int he 7:50's. Both are realistic and very repsectable times.

Just to compare a M5 is around 8:14, Cobalt SS 8:22 and the HHR SS 8:44.

Anything under 9 min is a good time any lap under 8 min is damn respectable for the Green Hell.

Keep in mind GM does this at the same start and finsih line in production trim and tires all from a standing start.

Only mods are roll bars, safety harness, and so,me telemetry equipment. Un like some MFG who like to sneek in soft slick tires flying starts and other tricks to drop times.

Note the ZR-1 is expected do a 7:20's lap when anounced. they were in the 7:40 range on a wet track in a early test. A GM offical said he expected 7:20 when they were don on a dry track.

The GT-R just did 7:25 but I have not see if it was a standing start or stock trim.

As for Camaro Weight It should be under 4000 but not by much. It is smaller than the G8 and the G8 is right at 4000. You can do the math on a shorter car from there.

 

anywhere near 4000 pounds and this car will lose a lot of appeal. if a portly 4th gen was 3400-3500 pounds, and current mustang gt is 3500 pounds this car better be in the same (or less) ballpark.

 

I hate to break it to you but in all likeliness the base V8 will be around 3900 with the top dog being around 4100. There was never a snowball's chance in hell that GM could get 3500 out of the Zeta Arch.

If you want a 3500lbs 400+ HP car the MY2011 Mustang might be your only affordable option. Assuming the rumors pan out...which they might not. Cars are getting fatter, damned greenies and hippies keep feeding them.

 

The Mustang won't be 3500 either. They're already at 3550 now. Add a 4 valve top half and a TR6060 to handle the power and you'd be looking at 3675 assuming everything else on the car stayed the same.

 

really you could have that today.....provided you dont blak at premium gas. 08 GT with frpp supercharger. Factory warranty and 400hp+ with non intercooled option. No warranty ar 500+.

 

we're talking Camaro, not Challenger.

 

fyi... per Bret Vivian, who was in the passenger seat... they hit some snow squals when lapping the 'ring.

 

So, you're saying that the Z/28 won't be over 4000 pounds?

 

little birdies have been saying that the mustang is going on a diet. aiming to shave 200 off. hopefully it'll happen.

 

I'd interpret that as a yes.

 

Could be some hair splitting. The Challenger is listed at about 4100+
3700 + 400 = 4100.

 

Maybe he is talking about the SS which is the 'new' Z28.

 

Well, it's just a concern based on the article which stated that the V8 SS will
be in the mid-to upper-$30,000 range and based on what we've heard that they will be offering initially the LS, LT and SS. With the LS and LT being V6's that
leaves only the SS at that much higher price. Yes I know there is much speculation, I'm just hoping GM is listening and I'm sure they will, it's just that
I saw the article with their speculated pricing and it really got under my skin.

 

Yea the weight rumors have raised my eyebrows too. The Indy show is going to be very interesting. This car is on the verge of greatness but it's going to need some help to make it. I know that GM wants to bring out the lightest, quickest, and cheapest Camaro. But with the Zeta platform and some other current issues for them today we'll have to see how far from what we/they wanted to what we get.

 

this is something that has worried me from the very start of the 5th gen design - the size and weight. i lost interest in the gto because of it's 3900 pounds, and i'll likely lose interest in the 5th gen if it comes in heavier than my 4th gen which is already too bulky at 3500.

seriously, if the new 5th gen comes in at 4000pounds, i'll take the money i have for the camaro down payment and throw in a 425 hp motor on my 4th gen and keep it.