Did 1/4 mile bragging rights help in 2002? or 2001? or 2000? or....?

Maybe...perhaps. Is there any data to back it up?

FWIW....I have no real care what they call it.

 

I asked this very question and the post died a silent death in the Suspension forum...seems no-one knows if you can adjust these settings and how much so......

You can't change the laws of physics though....1st place didn't matter on the 4th gen either, it was cancelled.

Most drivers will opt for the "fun to drive" over 1st place.....

 

As far as I'm aware, the VE is fully adjustable for camber, caster and toe.

If you don't want to do that, it's amazing what a good set of springs, shocks and ride height will do.

The Camaro already has good brakes so it has great track potential. The point I'm making is in response to your last comment... it can also be made to be very fun to drive and race!

EDIT: If you are after proof...

 

So why wasn't it? Who pussed out and made it drive for idiots? Who tested and reccommended these p*ss poor settings?

 

That's but one driver's opinion. It could be right, it could be wrong but I've also read other reviews stating the Camaro is easily the better handler.

Have you driven/raced one? If so, what's your opinion?

Don't forget, Camaro has near 50:50 weight distribution, it's inherently neutral in attitude but understeer is easier to control for 'average' drivers. The understeer is not due to the LS3 engine's mass which is much, much lighter than the Mustang's engine.

 

Actually, nearly every test I've read and my own time behind the wheel, the complaints about numb on center and excessive understeer are consistant.

Actually, there were a couple of responses to my alignment post...Mike at Pedders wrote:
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...40&postcount=7

 

The aluminum 3V 4.6 is very close in weight to the aluminum LS3.

 

I dunno about that, IIRC its was the F4 SS that gave the C5 hell (somebody correct me here, but I do know it was an SS that did indeed give a vette a run for its money around Milford???)

 

This is true, ford lists the 4.6 3v's weight in the FRPP catalog (as has been documented many times). Now if we're talking 5.4 S/C, yeah thats a heavy ****! And yeah I mean its a really heavy **** - the "bracing" required in the chassis is minimal and the M6, 18 x 9.5 wheels, and larger front brakes do not add all that much - seriously.

 

Yes you can adjust the caster (but you will need a kit).

Changing the caster angle should provide you with better on center feel.

Forget the reading, and do more driving of the Camaro! Then come back to me...

 

Yes.

I was actually thinking of the 4.6 DOHC and the 5.4L Mod motors, also used in performance comparisons.

 

Haz, the CI NVH 5.4 block is right around 90-100 lbs heavier than the AL 5.4 block., but I'm not sure where Ford can cut out another 100 pounds as well. I see the 2011 GT500 coming in at 3800 pounds myself (unless Ford has been doing some weight reduction on the S-197 chassis itself).

 

I'd say you'd probably be a little bit ahead of the curve (depending on location). I'm a few years younger than you and the most common question I get about my GT500 is "How the hell did you afford that?"

guionM would know for sure, but I beleive the median buying demographic for the GT Mustang is about your age and the GT500 a bit older.

 

Almost 150 posts in 24 hrs....definitely a hot topic!

 

Ahhh, I see. So, my purchasing a good family car, automatically discredits me......... when it comes to a "fun car."

The fact that my next vehicle purchase, after my "good family car," will be a "fun car," doesn't count, I guess.

If you base your "opinion" of who is qualified, and "allowed" to talk about "fun cars," on the fact they are planning the immediate purchase of said car............. then this forum would be rather empty.

See, my requirements on my "good family car," and my "fun car" are completely different.

Oh, and I take no offense to you taking my comments with a grain of salt. After all, what would a girl like me, know about a good handling car. I mean, it's not like I built my last "fun car" myself........... for handling, first and foremost.............. or that I consider tossability, and fun-to-drive (my definition of fun-to-drive = good handling) as the most important qualification for my "fun car."

I take your comments with a grain of salt also (no offense intended).

Back to the upcoming Z28. I guess we will just have to see how this all plays out. Since they are saying it will still be a year until it is here............ there is plenty of time for the arguements/discussions to continue.