Actually I don't believe that is the case anymore, but I could be wrong.

 

"We're not going to build it"= They're not going to build it.
"We can't comment on future product"= They are going to build it, but don't want to talk about it.

Coupe in '10
Convertible in '11
Z28 in '12

Something new each year, just like GM always does.

 

I suppose that would depend on what sort of enthusiast consumer feedback he's getting. I know what I told him...

 

Charlie, would you go for an SS w/ all of the Z28 upgrades, minus the LSA? You could hotcam the LS3 and get basically LS7 power, w/ a 38xx lb package, and benefit from the Z28 improved handling and maybe steering.

 

You know, my preference has always been a hot NA motor in a lighter package. But everything needs to be fixed if you want people to call it "fun to drive". I mean WTF, my Cadillac has better steering and feels more eager to play than the Camaro. FIX THAT!!!

A less dorky steering wheel, and less weird shift **** would also be appreciated.

 

I would suspect the Z/28 will be out before the convertible, but perhaps that's wishful thinking. If the "work" is already done, how difficult would it be to add it as a late model year add for MY2010; or perhaps bring it out next June as an early MY2011?

On the other-hand if it isn't slated for MY2012, and as others have suggested that the 6th gen Camaro may be out as soon as MY2014, would we better off waiting for an Alpha Z/28 instead?

If they are building a Zeta Z/28, they need to tell us when... soon. I would hate to be a Camaro enthusiast who goes out and purchases a 2010 SS and adds a supercharger, beefs up the suspension and does some "lightening", spending easily $20K for parts and labor customizing my Camaro, only to learn 6-12 months later that GM was bringing out a similar car called "Z/28" for less than what I've invested. Perhaps Jason can chime in how he feels on the subject since he's basically doing this as we speak.

(BTW, interesting article in the Nov. '09 Hot Rod on how with weight savings and bolt-ons they trimmed a 1SS down by ~80lbs and lowered its ET.)

 

I stand corrected on that point but one thing I'm almost certain of is that the Mustang's body will need reinforcement to pass 2012 safety mandates. Stiffening of the chassis as per the changes to the convertible are rumored to be introduced.

 

Indeed I am. Personally speaking...I always said that since they are not currently building a Z28, I will build my own. Well...sorta. For those who are not up to speed on my project, in the next two weeks I will be adding a Magnacharger, LS9 cam, long tube headers, exhaust, Pedder's coil overs/sway bars, etc. in preparation to be on display at SEMA this year. Project blog in my sig. Right now, I am just days away from initiating the entire transformation.

If they bring out a Z28, I have no problems with that. As much as I would like to have a Z28, it won't make my car any less of a monster that I am making it. Then perhaps one day I can trade up (or down?) to a Z28. We'll see, but IF they bring it out, I think it will be great for the Camaro product line overall.

 

i would be pretty upset knowing about the z28 coming out. i have invested alot of money into what i am making out of my car. i would have rather just waited and bought a z28 and put less money into it and getting more out of it.i have said the same thing as Jason, if they arent making it, i will make my own, but better. since im so deep into my car now, trading it in isnt even an option. ill just have to make my own ss/z28.

Jason, is the ls9 cam only good if the car is boosted? or can some decent power gains be made with it N/A?

 

Man this BS is still going on? Complain all you want, Chevy is going to build the car the way they want and if you don't want it don't buy it. I swear if I was GM product planning and read this thread I would say screw it and cancel the whole program, and let them live with what they have so far. 99% of the people buying these cars don't race them around a track, and the person who said they could delete 6 airbags, do you honestly think a major corporation trying to promote safety is going to pull a safety device out of a car and make it less safe? Let's get realistic with our hopes for this car. 200lb's isn't coming off of this car, safety equipment isn't coming off this car, and a racing suspension for 1% of owners most likely isn't gonna make it on this car. Can we just have the complaint thread started elsewhere and get back to just news about the Z28? Oh yeah it's gonna be called the Z28 also so get over that fact as well!

 

It is still a stretch. Unless they are using depleted uranium, I dunno I am not a part of Mustang design. The problem is that unless it was designed idiotically in the first place I still have a hard time believing even 15lbs per corner by switching to aluminum or chomemoly. I could buy new front control arms and save maybe 10lbs at front and none of those are really adequate for much cornering, just for drag. As for the exhaust system being needlessly heavy, they have to meet emissions and sound requirements. There probably are pounds to get out of there though. The thing about any forums is that most users are thinking in terms of mods that may be available and that they may have done to their cars. This isn't really a good comparison to a factory built car that has to be warrantied and they have to assume it will get driven every day.

I think so, and switching would save a few pounds if they did it right but it isn't going to transform it from a GTO to an RX7 or anything.

 

Some of us don't currently have that option. While I could purchase and install all the parts someone like you, Jason, are doing, I wouldn't be able to get it to pass emissions in California. That is supposed to change at some point, however right now my only option is to wait for GM to build it for me.

I was pretty much set to wait for HUD to be added to the 2SS and then I was going to purchase an aqua blue metallic L99. Now, I'm not so sure. Heck now the CTS coupe even intrigues me.

 

N thats a deal! it was 20k!

 

According to the article it started at $20k and they lowered it to $9k after complaints.

Heck its a Z/28 not a Shelby. Why not a fiberglass hood like they did on the 4th gens?

Although I wonder how much lighter either (fiberglass/carbon fiber) would be compared to the stock aluminum hood. (Yes, I know they'd be lighter... how much lighter is the question.)

According to the Hot Rod article, the GMPP shorty headers save 9lbs. I was also surprised how much the engine cover weighs.

 

The Camaro hood is already aluminium....CF wouldn't be cost effective.