Ditto....ditto....ditto....on all of it Doug.

Damn. It.

 

^^We don't yet know that they don't plan to shed weight, although I doubt they do.

But if they did, what could they possibly do in a modern car and make it a significant weight reduction without it being a ridiculous product (ie: no a/c and no rear seats). Sure those 2 examples sound good to many here but no one will try to sell a car like that.

 

I'll let you in on a secret - there'll be no weight loss.

Remember this number......


4100.

 

the ones that bitched are the ones that will bitch about anything.

z28

 

CTSv is 4,2XXlbs and performs beautifully...so hopefully they'll get the steering and suspension tuning right on the z28. I wouldn't write it off yet. Even the noseheavy pig that is the GT500 has gotten praises for its handling so there's hope.

Can't say i'm surprised. It's much easier and cheaper to add hp instead of dropping weight on a car and platform that's heavy to begin with.

I'm more concerned about pricing than i am about its weight. I don't see it going for less than 45k.

 

The noseheavy pig that is the GT500, that has gotten praises for its handling, is losing 200lbs.

Frankly, I'm concerned about the weight, and the price.

The sad thing is, the more hp that they give it, means that they have to add heavier duty parts, which means more weight, which means more hp that they have to give it.

 

I was talking about the current 2010 model. Even in its current state (without the weight loss) the reviews having been very positive. And that's with the very heavy iron-block dohc motor throwing off the weight distribution. The weight loss and switch to aluminum block should improve things even more.

Obviously, Ford did their homework on the suspension/steering tuning which is something GM's going to have to address on the z28. My point was that this z28 can still be a fun and capable handler with the right setup despite the hefty weight. They can't do much about the weight seeing as how it was already a heavy car to begin with. Unlike the GT500 which is going from an iron to aluminum block (where most of the weight loss is coming from), there probably isn't 200lbs of weight to drop on the SS without seriously decontenting the car or resorting to expensive/exotic components. SO a weight loss is pretty much out of the picture, and so GM resorted to adding hp and redoing the suspension, etc... as a means of improving on the performance. Obviously, weight will creep upwards with the addition of the S/c'er and the additional mods/upgrades.

I'm sure it isn't what most of us envisioned or wanted in the ideal z28. personally, i'd be willing to overlook the weight figures if it performed as well as the CTSv and the base price came in under 40k, but the price is a deal-breaker for me. Like i said earlier, i think it'll be 45+k. I love the GT500 too, but that's too much $$$...especially dime a dozen cars like the mustang and camaro that have humble roots.

 

For those of you that want (and can afford) one, I hope it turns out to be what exactly what you were looking for. Definately a neat car, and something like this would certainly bring hope that serious "musclecar" performance is still alive and well.

For me....much like the bloated pig known as the GT500.....no thanks.

But that's just me.

 

Well, depending on the cost of the Z/28, maybe I'll hold out for one of those!!!

 

If you end up with a good handling, good performance Camaro, and decent gas mileage, then what the heck does it really matter what the weight of it is. I mean, I understand the whole thing about a heavy vehicle. I just don't see myself going to the track, a cruise, or a car show and putting my Camaro on the scale like the tv show, who is the biggest loser. Did you ever think that most people that are going to be buying these cars will probably never put it on a race track. And, not every muscle car has to be or is going to be a 1/4 mile running drag car. It is just a little annoying having heard all of the people saying, bring back the z/28 and now that it looks like it is going to actually happen, alot of you are like, why are they doing that.

I think it is kind of cool that GM is doing what they should have been for a long time and listening to what the people want. People said they wanted the z/28 and now it looks like they are going to get it. Let's wait and see what GM actually does and comes out with before we start ripping it apart.

 

^well, we all should know what a Z/28 was,, and what is isnt...

closest you could get in recent times was the 305 TPI in a 3rdgen...

they should just ditch calling htis a Z28 and consider a cooler SS name for it. it would fit better.

 

Seriously GM.....it's 2009.....instead of just stuffin' a big ol' motor in a Camaro and calling it done...(been there, done that....it failed)



THIS is what you should be thinking of when you think Z/28...



And read this... https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...4&postcount=41

Now call this (mistake) something BESIDES a Z/28 and give me hope that you understand what a TRUE driver wants in a REAL Z/28 and try again.....

 

Maybe this could be a ZL1?

 

Ohhh boy the ---- has really hit the fan.

 

FINALLY!

If the CTS-V does as well as it does at the ring I'm sure the Z28 will better it.

Maybe a carbon fibre ZL1 will come out in a couple of years for you weight scale watchers.