NEWS: Hugging a Camaro (PIC OF MULE AND WELBURN!)
10-17-2007 | 03:51 AM
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Yes -- it will be a model year 2010 -- but we have not moved the 'start-up' date. We'll start building Camaros in the 4th quarter of 2008 -- and they'll be in dealerships in the first quarter of 2009.
Yes - the new Camaro will have a B-pillar. BUT - it isn't noticable from the outside. Think of a first gen with the rear window in the up position. The rear window will cover the B-pillar and there will be a weatherstrip attached. The B-pillar is necessary for several reasons -- the most important being:
>reduction of mass
>structural rigidity
And let's face it guys and gals -- if the Camaro doesn't get a 5 - star crash rating from front/rear/side ---insurance issues will be huge.......
.....and, I think we're safe in saying this: The production car is so close to the concept -- that if we were driving down the road in a production Camaro coupe in Silver -- and you passed us going the other way -- you'd swear it was the Silver concept. I mean it. I couldn't be happier.
(OK -- for something we'll talk about next year at this time -- there are TWO things I'm not wild about -- each is a small detail.......but I can live with 'em and they probably won't be on most peoples' radar screens....other than that, I can't get the grin off my face.....)
The Future just keeps getting brighter and brighter!
Good luck -- and we hope that all three Bumblebee Camaros will go to good homes in the Camaro/Firebird Enthusiast community!
Yes - the new Camaro will have a B-pillar. BUT - it isn't noticable from the outside. Think of a first gen with the rear window in the up position. The rear window will cover the B-pillar and there will be a weatherstrip attached. The B-pillar is necessary for several reasons -- the most important being:
>reduction of mass
>structural rigidity
And let's face it guys and gals -- if the Camaro doesn't get a 5 - star crash rating from front/rear/side ---insurance issues will be huge.......
.....and, I think we're safe in saying this: The production car is so close to the concept -- that if we were driving down the road in a production Camaro coupe in Silver -- and you passed us going the other way -- you'd swear it was the Silver concept. I mean it. I couldn't be happier.
(OK -- for something we'll talk about next year at this time -- there are TWO things I'm not wild about -- each is a small detail.......but I can live with 'em and they probably won't be on most peoples' radar screens....other than that, I can't get the grin off my face.....)
The Future just keeps getting brighter and brighter!
Good luck -- and we hope that all three Bumblebee Camaros will go to good homes in the Camaro/Firebird Enthusiast community!
10-17-2007 | 08:08 AM
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I don't know if anyone else noticed (I didn't read through all of the replies) but it seems to me that the car is really tall. I don't know if Welburn is relatively short but wow, that car is much taller than I would have hoped. The roof comes to his upper chest.
10-17-2007 | 08:25 AM
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Not necessarily. It's an awful pic, in the shadows, etc. Besides, there are some pics of the concept where the side crease is not noticeable.
So, I am still holding out hope they are correct with the "difficult to distinguish from the concept" line -- omitting the side crease would certainly be an obvious change.
So, I am still holding out hope they are correct with the "difficult to distinguish from the concept" line -- omitting the side crease would certainly be an obvious change.
10-17-2007 | 09:15 AM
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Ed is around 5'-8"-ish....or less.
10-17-2007 | 10:14 AM
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Correct, Mr.Welburn is a short guy, Id say 5'8" or shorter even.
The Camaro is short, probably as short as he is to the concept.
I swear there is a picture of him standing next to the Camaro. I have a picture of him standing next to the new Malibu, that might help.
Here ya go..
Him with the 2 concepts and his 69 for reference
Rick, Lutz and Welburn at Detroit
Im in love with it! I do hope that they keep the side crease, and I think they will. I see they toned down the rocker pannel a bit, and no hide away wiper arms?!?! I do hope that they keep that crease in the roof of the car! Probably not, and maybe one of the things Scott is talking about, but I really liked that dual hump roof thing. I guess a ttops t-bar simulation or put there to pay homage to the ttop cars that came before it.
The Camaro is short, probably as short as he is to the concept.
I swear there is a picture of him standing next to the Camaro. I have a picture of him standing next to the new Malibu, that might help.
Here ya go..
Him with the 2 concepts and his 69 for reference
Rick, Lutz and Welburn at Detroit
Im in love with it! I do hope that they keep the side crease, and I think they will. I see they toned down the rocker pannel a bit, and no hide away wiper arms?!?! I do hope that they keep that crease in the roof of the car! Probably not, and maybe one of the things Scott is talking about, but I really liked that dual hump roof thing. I guess a ttops t-bar simulation or put there to pay homage to the ttop cars that came before it.
Last edited by Big Als Z; 10-17-2007 at 10:20 AM.
10-17-2007 | 10:40 AM
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10-17-2007 | 11:02 AM
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Here is pic of Mr.Welburn that gives a good idea of his size.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/wp-conte...8&idg=1&idi=16
http://www.leftlanenews.com/wp-conte...8&idg=1&idi=16
Last edited by embpic; 10-17-2007 at 11:17 AM.
10-17-2007 | 11:15 AM
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I LOVE IT!!! It's SO thrilling to see this picture!
It looks to me like the gas cap is on top of the fender - and that would be awesome! And I wouldn't rule out a hud yet either - it looks to me like there is a small opening near the windshield between the gage clusters - check out the red box I've added below......
It looks to me like the gas cap is on top of the fender - and that would be awesome! And I wouldn't rule out a hud yet either - it looks to me like there is a small opening near the windshield between the gage clusters - check out the red box I've added below......
