NEWS: Hugging a Camaro (PIC OF MULE AND WELBURN!)
#108
**the reason you can't see flares and spoilers and such is that the car has cammo on it! The rear has a bra -- so that prying eyes can't get a good look! We've been known to apply fiberglass and bondo to areas of the car to mislead -- and in fact one time, we had a badge that looked very CURIOUSLY like a Lexus emblem (on another GM product under development) -- until you looked closely and realized it wasn't an "L" at all!
Which crease are you talking about? The slight line that ran down the middle of the car? Or the lower crease along the bottom of the doors? The lower one is still there - I don't know about the middle crease, though.
#110
But I can totally understand it - to me it's a styling cue that set the concept very much apart from most cars and it got noticed by every single "non-enthusiast" that I know that saw the car - noticed in a positive way. I personally think the little details will make or break this car and if you don't want to share, that's cool - automotive is a cutthroat business.................having said that, there's still a part of me that hates you a little
#111
I doubt it. To get the structural rigidity they are looking for in order to reduce weight, I'd guess that the production b-pillar would be about 2-inches wide.
#112
**picture was taken in Australia
**Bumblebee does not have a B-pillar -- that's simply the weatherstriping that's attached to the rear window -- without weatherstriping, you'd have water intrusion -- not to mention a lot of wind noise!
**you won't see Camaros running around Detroit anytime soon.
**the reason you can't see flares and spoilers and such is that the car has cammo on it! The rear has a bra -- so that prying eyes can't get a good look! We've been known to apply fiberglass and bondo to areas of the car to mislead -- and in fact one time, we had a badge that looked very CURIOUSLY like a Lexus emblem (on another GM product under development) -- until you looked closely and realized it wasn't an "L" at all!
**gas cap -- if it were still in the same place, one could not see it based on the cammo.
**Bumblebee does not have a B-pillar -- that's simply the weatherstriping that's attached to the rear window -- without weatherstriping, you'd have water intrusion -- not to mention a lot of wind noise!
**you won't see Camaros running around Detroit anytime soon.
**the reason you can't see flares and spoilers and such is that the car has cammo on it! The rear has a bra -- so that prying eyes can't get a good look! We've been known to apply fiberglass and bondo to areas of the car to mislead -- and in fact one time, we had a badge that looked very CURIOUSLY like a Lexus emblem (on another GM product under development) -- until you looked closely and realized it wasn't an "L" at all!
**gas cap -- if it were still in the same place, one could not see it based on the cammo.
"Yes - the new Camaro will have a B-pillar. BUT - it isn't noticable from the outside. Think of a first gen with the rear window in the up position. The rear window will cover the B-pillar and there will be a weatherstrip attached. The B-pillar is necessary for several reasons -- the most important being:
>reduction of mass
>structural rigidity"
I took that to mean it will look more like the Bumble Bee as it looks like a First gen rear window up. I guess I am expecting the glass to overlay the pillar more to hide it than say on some other cars. i also expect it to be black on all color Camaros to blend in.
If you got to have it you may as well hide it.
A good example of hiding a B pillar is the 88 Fiero GT with its large window that covers right to the door glass. The B pillar in the Fiero is about 8 inches wide and you se nothing of it.
Last edited by hyperv6; 10-18-2007 at 05:53 PM.
#113
Just two quick things.1)If you can remember the new Charger when it was a concept car it too had the fuel filler like the old charger in chrome on top of the left rear quarter.Obviously the production model has a fuel door on the side of the left rear quarter.2) With the 5th gen having a "b" pillar does that mean the rear side glass is stationary and does not "roll" down?
#114
#115
I'd like to see that intake slot in the nose go away. Put it back up on the hood where it belongs IMO
#116
2. the hump on the passenger side floorboard will not be making a return
#118
I say that the fuel door could move simply because it is not practical for it to be there on a mass production vehicle. The C4 Vette had a top-mount gas cap on the rear deck lid and if I remember correctly, people hated it. It wasn't easy to fill without dragging the hose over the back of the car or spilling gas everywhere.
#119
#120
I would think that having it on the front of hood is more areodynamically efficient, however I haven't seen the math to proved it. While effective, the cowl induction hood does provide additional drag.