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Old 10-18-2007 | 03:45 AM
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ok i love this car but FOR THE LOVE OF GOD its not a rear fender its a Quarter Panel im losing my mind reading all you guys saying "rear fender"....
Old 10-18-2007 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 99SilverSS
As for that car on the streets of Detroit probably not anytime soon. Although it is a great place to test suspension setups!
Security systems too...
Old 10-18-2007 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Fbodfather
**the reason you can't see flares and spoilers and such is that the car has cammo on it! The rear has a bra -- so that prying eyes can't get a good look! We've been known to apply fiberglass and bondo to areas of the car to mislead -- and in fact one time, we had a badge that looked very CURIOUSLY like a Lexus emblem (on another GM product under development) -- until you looked closely and realized it wasn't an "L" at all!
Sneaky!


Originally Posted by Fbodfather
**gas cap -- if it were still in the same place, one could not see it based on the cammo.
So it isn't in the same place, then. My bet is on the left rear 1/4 panel.


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Not to press too hard, but if you can tell us, does that include the side body crease as well?
Which crease are you talking about? The slight line that ran down the middle of the car? Or the lower crease along the bottom of the doors? The lower one is still there - I don't know about the middle crease, though.
Old 10-18-2007 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MissedShift
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Old 10-18-2007 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Fbodfather
**gas cap -- if it were still in the same place, one could not see it based on the cammo.
Scott, you are THE MAN! This answer is just evasive enough to tell us nothing, but give those of us in the "gas cap on top of the quarter panel" crowd some hope. That's awesome.......and perhaps a bit cruel.

But I can totally understand it - to me it's a styling cue that set the concept very much apart from most cars and it got noticed by every single "non-enthusiast" that I know that saw the car - noticed in a positive way. I personally think the little details will make or break this car and if you don't want to share, that's cool - automotive is a cutthroat business.................having said that, there's still a part of me that hates you a little
Old 10-18-2007 | 12:11 PM
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but it seems that the b-pillar on a prod. camaro will be very subtle like the weatherstripping on bumblebee. at least thats what im getting out of it
I doubt it. To get the structural rigidity they are looking for in order to reduce weight, I'd guess that the production b-pillar would be about 2-inches wide.
Old 10-18-2007 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Fbodfather
**picture was taken in Australia

**Bumblebee does not have a B-pillar -- that's simply the weatherstriping that's attached to the rear window -- without weatherstriping, you'd have water intrusion -- not to mention a lot of wind noise!

**you won't see Camaros running around Detroit anytime soon.

**the reason you can't see flares and spoilers and such is that the car has cammo on it! The rear has a bra -- so that prying eyes can't get a good look! We've been known to apply fiberglass and bondo to areas of the car to mislead -- and in fact one time, we had a badge that looked very CURIOUSLY like a Lexus emblem (on another GM product under development) -- until you looked closely and realized it wasn't an "L" at all!

**gas cap -- if it were still in the same place, one could not see it based on the cammo.
I did not mean to imply it was a B pillar but based on your statment from a previous post

"Yes - the new Camaro will have a B-pillar. BUT - it isn't noticable from the outside. Think of a first gen with the rear window in the up position. The rear window will cover the B-pillar and there will be a weatherstrip attached. The B-pillar is necessary for several reasons -- the most important being:
>reduction of mass
>structural rigidity"

I took that to mean it will look more like the Bumble Bee as it looks like a First gen rear window up. I guess I am expecting the glass to overlay the pillar more to hide it than say on some other cars. i also expect it to be black on all color Camaros to blend in.

If you got to have it you may as well hide it.

A good example of hiding a B pillar is the 88 Fiero GT with its large window that covers right to the door glass. The B pillar in the Fiero is about 8 inches wide and you se nothing of it.

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Old 10-19-2007 | 11:53 AM
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Just two quick things.1)If you can remember the new Charger when it was a concept car it too had the fuel filler like the old charger in chrome on top of the left rear quarter.Obviously the production model has a fuel door on the side of the left rear quarter.2) With the 5th gen having a "b" pillar does that mean the rear side glass is stationary and does not "roll" down?
Old 10-19-2007 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by NASCR46
2) With the 5th gen having a "b" pillar does that mean the rear side glass is stationary and does not "roll" down?
That would be my guess. Stationary on the coupe, roll down on the convertible.
Old 10-21-2007 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Fbodfather
-- there are TWO things I'm not wild about -- each is a small detail.......but I can live with 'em and they probably won't be on most peoples' radar screens....other than that, I can't get the grin off my face

I'd like to see that intake slot in the nose go away. Put it back up on the hood where it belongs IMO
Old 10-21-2007 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Fbodfather
there are TWO things I'm not wild about -- each is a small detail.......but I can live with 'em and they probably won't be on most peoples' radar screens....other than that, I can't get the grin off my face.....)
1. The camo paint scheme won't be available until the release of metal gear 4

2. the hump on the passenger side floorboard will not be making a return
Old 10-22-2007 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jg95z28
It also looks like the dash layout remains intact.
Hope so, I like it.
Old 10-26-2007 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonD
I say that the fuel door could move simply because it is not practical for it to be there on a mass production vehicle. The C4 Vette had a top-mount gas cap on the rear deck lid and if I remember correctly, people hated it. It wasn't easy to fill without dragging the hose over the back of the car or spilling gas everywhere.
I wonder who. I love it there. I can pull up to any gas pump without worrying about what side of the car it's on, and unless you park like an idiot, there's no reason that the hose should ever touch the car if you pull up far enough. I've had my car for 5 years and have not yet spilled one drop of gas on my paint. All you need to do is give it 3 shakes... which every man on earth should be very capable of doing already!!!!
Old 11-14-2007 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 61695
I'd like to see that intake slot in the nose go away. Put it back up on the hood where it belongs IMO
Personally Id rather it be removed than on the hood. Run ram air through the back of the cowl like the 69 if you want or aftermarket.
Old 11-15-2007 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 5thgen69camaro
Personally Id rather it be removed than on the hood. Run ram air through the back of the cowl like the 69 if you want or aftermarket.
I would think that having it on the front of hood is more areodynamically efficient, however I haven't seen the math to proved it. While effective, the cowl induction hood does provide additional drag.



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