NEWS: Hyundai Genesis Coupe Beats Camaro and Challenger in Power-to-Weight Ratio
11-02-2008 | 06:05 PM
#47
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It was on the same link. I had to do some looking, but it was at most one click off that page.
I don't think the issue is that one is too big, but moreso that "only" 8 inches managed to add 300 to 400lbs!
it would have been better, unfortunately it's a bit late now. The best we can hope to do is get someone at GM to realise "hey, maybe this wasn't such a good idea."
Just pointing out that it can be done and without breaking the bank. I mean sure you get more with the Camaro: More hp, More stopping power, More weight, More gas usage, More expensive tires...etc..
I can not understand the negativity here regarding the size. In fact, I think perhaps certain people should be banned for their constantly ruining threads with their incessant negativity. If some of you think the Camaro is massive compared to the Genesis. Lets take a look at the specs.
Length 190.4 Camaro vs 182.3
Height 54.2 Camaro vs. 54.3
Width 75.5 Camaro vs. 73.4
So, yeah the Camaro is longer and wider. But, how can you reduce these dimensions and keep the look that is so important to a car like the Camaro.
If you are going to get all shook up over about 8 inches in length, then maybe you should buy a Mini.
The Camaro is heavier also, but put a 6.2 V-8 in the Genesis and install the hardware to handle it, and the Genesis would gain quite a few pounds.
Length 190.4 Camaro vs 182.3
Height 54.2 Camaro vs. 54.3
Width 75.5 Camaro vs. 73.4
So, yeah the Camaro is longer and wider. But, how can you reduce these dimensions and keep the look that is so important to a car like the Camaro.
If you are going to get all shook up over about 8 inches in length, then maybe you should buy a Mini.
The Camaro is heavier also, but put a 6.2 V-8 in the Genesis and install the hardware to handle it, and the Genesis would gain quite a few pounds.
I wonder how expensive the Camaro will end up costing in actual developement dollars.
I mean the whole reason Camaro is so large and heavy was the argument that it would be "cheaper" to base it on Zeta rather than a new architecture. Cheaper because the reported $1.2 billion which GM had already spent on Zeta could be spread across several hundred thousand Zeta sedans annually. And thus the business case for the Zeta Camaro was born. But those several hundred thousand sedans never materialized - and GM has already spent the reported $1.2 billion, with I guess the Camaro and G8 picking up the tab.
Funny, (funny weird, not funny ha-ha) how things turn out. I betcha it would have been cheaper to develop an all new, smaller architecture for the Camaro, than to have put it on the "cheaper" Zeta.
A smaller architecture which also might have been used to spin off a sedan or two - now that would have made GM look like "Johnny on the spot" right now.
I mean the whole reason Camaro is so large and heavy was the argument that it would be "cheaper" to base it on Zeta rather than a new architecture. Cheaper because the reported $1.2 billion which GM had already spent on Zeta could be spread across several hundred thousand Zeta sedans annually. And thus the business case for the Zeta Camaro was born. But those several hundred thousand sedans never materialized - and GM has already spent the reported $1.2 billion, with I guess the Camaro and G8 picking up the tab.
Funny, (funny weird, not funny ha-ha) how things turn out. I betcha it would have been cheaper to develop an all new, smaller architecture for the Camaro, than to have put it on the "cheaper" Zeta.
A smaller architecture which also might have been used to spin off a sedan or two - now that would have made GM look like "Johnny on the spot" right now.
it would have been better, unfortunately it's a bit late now. The best we can hope to do is get someone at GM to realise "hey, maybe this wasn't such a good idea."Just pointing out that it can be done and without breaking the bank. I mean sure you get more with the Camaro: More hp, More stopping power, More weight, More gas usage, More expensive tires...etc..
11-02-2008 | 07:13 PM
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11-02-2008 | 07:32 PM
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11-03-2008 | 12:04 AM
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that price is the US dollar equivalent of it's price in the home market of Korea... it'll likely be more expensive than that.. i bet it'll be well above $30,000 to buy one in the US
11-03-2008 | 09:25 AM
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Side rant:
My wife and I are enormously disgusted and frustrated with GM right now. We have owned nothing but GM products for the last 20 years. We are now both in the market for a new car and the largest automaker in the world has nothing we want.
I wanted a modern pony car. Didn't get it. So now I'm looking for a low mileage '04 Z06. My first used car in 17 years (since I was a teenager). Thought about a C6 Z06 but this car will be raced. The C5s are still beating the C6s in SCCA Super Stock so why bother paying an extra $40 - 50K?
The wife wants a few more features in her car than I do but nothing crazy. She wants a comfortable two door daily driver that is sporty, under $40K, nicely styled and fun to drive without being big.
GM has nothing we are interested in. We have a maxed out GM card rebate and nothing to spend it on.
I'm looking at used cars and she is looking at Nissans and Infinitis. Hyundai is looking to crowd GM on their own turf while GM looks at merging with Chrysler. Meanwhile probably hundreds of years worth of experience flee their sinking ship.
Unbelievable.....
/Side rant
My wife and I are enormously disgusted and frustrated with GM right now. We have owned nothing but GM products for the last 20 years. We are now both in the market for a new car and the largest automaker in the world has nothing we want.
I wanted a modern pony car. Didn't get it. So now I'm looking for a low mileage '04 Z06. My first used car in 17 years (since I was a teenager). Thought about a C6 Z06 but this car will be raced. The C5s are still beating the C6s in SCCA Super Stock so why bother paying an extra $40 - 50K?
The wife wants a few more features in her car than I do but nothing crazy. She wants a comfortable two door daily driver that is sporty, under $40K, nicely styled and fun to drive without being big.
GM has nothing we are interested in. We have a maxed out GM card rebate and nothing to spend it on.
I'm looking at used cars and she is looking at Nissans and Infinitis. Hyundai is looking to crowd GM on their own turf while GM looks at merging with Chrysler. Meanwhile probably hundreds of years worth of experience flee their sinking ship.
Unbelievable.....
/Side rant
I really don't understand, you seem to describe the car you'd like as being the Camaro, and that your wife's taste for a cheap sporty 2-door coupe would be spot-on with the Camaro, probably a V6, yet you seem to hold a grudge saying GM has nothing you would want ??
Surely you are not suggesting that you and your wife cannot wait a few more months to get your new cars... surely you are not alluding that the Camaro won't fit your criteria ??
BTW : Subjectively speaking, this Genesis earns my "Ugliest 2 door coupe" award !!!!
11-03-2008 | 10:05 AM
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Here's some specs, if anyone is interested. Some cool packages and ----30mpg.
Part 1
Hyundai Releases Additional Engineering and Feature Information for the All-New 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe
Genesis Coupe Delivers an Estimated 30 MPG
Last update: 6:35 p.m. EDT Oct. 30, 2008
FOUNTAIN VALLEY, Calif., Oct 30, 2008 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Hyundai released additional engineering and feature information for the all-new 2010 Genesis Coupe today. The Genesis Coupe, and its rear-wheel drive platform-mate the Genesis sedan will make their Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) show debuts next week.
"One of the program targets for the Genesis engineering team was world-class weight efficiency," said John Krafcik, vice president, Product Development and Strategic Planning, Hyundai Motor America. "When you look at the size and content of both Genesis models, you'll find we lead all our competitors in weight efficiency. We also target leadership in power-to-weight ratio. We think that's just smart strategy in today's world. It pays huge dividends in both performance and fuel economy, and that's especially important in the segments in which these cars compete."
Vehicle Engine Curb Weight (pounds) Length (inches)
Genesis sedan 3.8-liter V6 3748 195.9
Genesis sedan 4.6-liter V8 4012 195.9
Genesis Coupe 2.0-liter turbo 3303 182.3
Genesis Coupe 3.8-liter V6 3402 182.3
Both Genesis Coupe and sedan are rich in ultra-high-strength steel, leading to world-class body rigidity. The Genesis sedan is 10-12 percent stiffer in torsion than Lexus and Mercedes-Benz competitors, yet it is lighter than these benchmark sedans, and offers more interior room. At just 3,303 pounds, the Genesis Coupe 2.0T is hundreds of pounds lighter than all of its IRS-equipped rear-wheel-drive competitors, with body-bending rigidity 24 percent higher than BMW E46 M3.
Vehicle Length Curb Weight Horsepower Power-to-weight
(lbs.) ratio
Genesis Coupe 3.8 182.3 3402 310 (est.) 11.0
BMW 335i 181.1 3571 300 11.9
Infiniti G37 183.1 3616 330 11.0
Camaro LS 190.4 3780 300 (est.) 12.6
Challenger 197.7 3819 250 15.3
This focus on weight efficiency pays dividends across the board. The Genesis sedan owes its ability to deliver both strong performance (0-60 mph in just 5.7 seconds) and excellent fuel economy (25 mpg EPA highway rating) in great part due to its impressive weight efficiency. Similarly, the Genesis Coupe 2.0T sets a new benchmark for front-engine, rear-wheel-drive gasoline fuel efficiency with a remarkable 30 mpg estimated EPA highway rating, because of its weight-efficient platform and its efficient 2.0-liter, low-pressure, turbocharged four-cylinder engine.
"While some turbochargers sacrifice smooth drivability with high operating boost pressures in the 20 psi range, Genesis Coupe uses a refined, low-boost calibration for smoothness and efficiency," said Derek Joyce, Genesis Coupe product manager. "We could have opted solely for big performance numbers, but our focus for the 2.0T was a more balanced package."
Genesis Coupe product highlights
With the start of U.S. market production now just a few months away, Hyundai Motor America is releasing model configuration and color choices for the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe.
"Genesis sedan has set a new benchmark for the $35,000-$40,000 premium sedan, and we think Genesis Coupe will do the same in the sport coupe segment," Krafcik said. "From our 30-mpg 2.0T with its low-pressure intercooled 4-cylinder turbo, to the 3.8 Track model with an estimated 310-hp and Brembo braking system, Genesis Coupe offers a wide range of powertrain and performance choices for driving enthusiasts of all stripes."
There are seven basic Genesis Coupe configurations:
-- 2.0T
-- 2.0T Premium
-- 2.0T Track (6-speed manual transmission only)
-- 2.0T R-Spec (late availability, 6-speed manual transmission only)
-- 3.8
-- 3.8 Grand Touring
-- 3.8 Track
GENESIS COUPE 2.0T: A MORE EFFICIENT TAKE ON THE REAR-WHEEL DRIVE SPORT COUPE
Standard equipment includes:
-- 2.0-liter, low-pressure, turbocharged, intercooled 4-cylinder engine
with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated
210-hp (regular), estimated 220 hp (premium), an estimated 223 ft-lbs
of torque (at just 2,000 rpm), an estimated 30 mpg EPA highway rating
and an estimated top speed of 137 mph
-- M6VR1 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: A5SR1 5-speed electronic
automatic transmission with lockup torque converter and steering
wheel-mounted paddle-shift Shiftronic controls)
-- 18-inch Euroflange alloy wheels with staggered Bridgestone Potenza
RE92A tires (P225/45VR18 front, P245/45VR18 rear)
-- Electronic Stability Control with ABS, Electronic Brake-Force
Distribution and Brake Assist
-- 12.6-inch ventilated front rotors with 60mm single piston floating
caliper
-- 12.4-inch solid rear rotors with 43mm single piston floating caliper
-- Sport-tuned MacPherson strut dual-link front suspension and five-link
rear independent suspension, 24mm front stabilizer bar, 19mm rear
stabilizer bar
-- Strut brace
-- Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
-- Tire Pressure Monitoring System
-- Front, side, side air curtain air bags
-- Active front head restraints
-- Driver's lumbar support
-- Black-out front lower fascia
-- Trip computer
-- Air conditioning
-- Satin silver and chrome interior accents
-- Keyless entry system
-- Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift ****
-- Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
-- AM/FM/XM/CD audio system with six speakers
-- USB/iPod/Aux jack connectivity
-- Steering wheel audio controls
-- Cruise control
-- Projector beam headlamps with auto light control
-- Integrated Bluetooth including steering wheel controls
-- Temporary spare with steel wheel (T135/90D17)
Part 1
Hyundai Releases Additional Engineering and Feature Information for the All-New 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe
Genesis Coupe Delivers an Estimated 30 MPG
Last update: 6:35 p.m. EDT Oct. 30, 2008
FOUNTAIN VALLEY, Calif., Oct 30, 2008 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Hyundai released additional engineering and feature information for the all-new 2010 Genesis Coupe today. The Genesis Coupe, and its rear-wheel drive platform-mate the Genesis sedan will make their Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) show debuts next week.
"One of the program targets for the Genesis engineering team was world-class weight efficiency," said John Krafcik, vice president, Product Development and Strategic Planning, Hyundai Motor America. "When you look at the size and content of both Genesis models, you'll find we lead all our competitors in weight efficiency. We also target leadership in power-to-weight ratio. We think that's just smart strategy in today's world. It pays huge dividends in both performance and fuel economy, and that's especially important in the segments in which these cars compete."
Vehicle Engine Curb Weight (pounds) Length (inches)
Genesis sedan 3.8-liter V6 3748 195.9
Genesis sedan 4.6-liter V8 4012 195.9
Genesis Coupe 2.0-liter turbo 3303 182.3
Genesis Coupe 3.8-liter V6 3402 182.3
Both Genesis Coupe and sedan are rich in ultra-high-strength steel, leading to world-class body rigidity. The Genesis sedan is 10-12 percent stiffer in torsion than Lexus and Mercedes-Benz competitors, yet it is lighter than these benchmark sedans, and offers more interior room. At just 3,303 pounds, the Genesis Coupe 2.0T is hundreds of pounds lighter than all of its IRS-equipped rear-wheel-drive competitors, with body-bending rigidity 24 percent higher than BMW E46 M3.
Vehicle Length Curb Weight Horsepower Power-to-weight
(lbs.) ratio
Genesis Coupe 3.8 182.3 3402 310 (est.) 11.0
BMW 335i 181.1 3571 300 11.9
Infiniti G37 183.1 3616 330 11.0
Camaro LS 190.4 3780 300 (est.) 12.6
Challenger 197.7 3819 250 15.3
This focus on weight efficiency pays dividends across the board. The Genesis sedan owes its ability to deliver both strong performance (0-60 mph in just 5.7 seconds) and excellent fuel economy (25 mpg EPA highway rating) in great part due to its impressive weight efficiency. Similarly, the Genesis Coupe 2.0T sets a new benchmark for front-engine, rear-wheel-drive gasoline fuel efficiency with a remarkable 30 mpg estimated EPA highway rating, because of its weight-efficient platform and its efficient 2.0-liter, low-pressure, turbocharged four-cylinder engine.
"While some turbochargers sacrifice smooth drivability with high operating boost pressures in the 20 psi range, Genesis Coupe uses a refined, low-boost calibration for smoothness and efficiency," said Derek Joyce, Genesis Coupe product manager. "We could have opted solely for big performance numbers, but our focus for the 2.0T was a more balanced package."
Genesis Coupe product highlights
With the start of U.S. market production now just a few months away, Hyundai Motor America is releasing model configuration and color choices for the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe.
"Genesis sedan has set a new benchmark for the $35,000-$40,000 premium sedan, and we think Genesis Coupe will do the same in the sport coupe segment," Krafcik said. "From our 30-mpg 2.0T with its low-pressure intercooled 4-cylinder turbo, to the 3.8 Track model with an estimated 310-hp and Brembo braking system, Genesis Coupe offers a wide range of powertrain and performance choices for driving enthusiasts of all stripes."
There are seven basic Genesis Coupe configurations:
-- 2.0T
-- 2.0T Premium
-- 2.0T Track (6-speed manual transmission only)
-- 2.0T R-Spec (late availability, 6-speed manual transmission only)
-- 3.8
-- 3.8 Grand Touring
-- 3.8 Track
GENESIS COUPE 2.0T: A MORE EFFICIENT TAKE ON THE REAR-WHEEL DRIVE SPORT COUPE
Standard equipment includes:
-- 2.0-liter, low-pressure, turbocharged, intercooled 4-cylinder engine
with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated
210-hp (regular), estimated 220 hp (premium), an estimated 223 ft-lbs
of torque (at just 2,000 rpm), an estimated 30 mpg EPA highway rating
and an estimated top speed of 137 mph
-- M6VR1 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: A5SR1 5-speed electronic
automatic transmission with lockup torque converter and steering
wheel-mounted paddle-shift Shiftronic controls)
-- 18-inch Euroflange alloy wheels with staggered Bridgestone Potenza
RE92A tires (P225/45VR18 front, P245/45VR18 rear)
-- Electronic Stability Control with ABS, Electronic Brake-Force
Distribution and Brake Assist
-- 12.6-inch ventilated front rotors with 60mm single piston floating
caliper
-- 12.4-inch solid rear rotors with 43mm single piston floating caliper
-- Sport-tuned MacPherson strut dual-link front suspension and five-link
rear independent suspension, 24mm front stabilizer bar, 19mm rear
stabilizer bar
-- Strut brace
-- Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
-- Tire Pressure Monitoring System
-- Front, side, side air curtain air bags
-- Active front head restraints
-- Driver's lumbar support
-- Black-out front lower fascia
-- Trip computer
-- Air conditioning
-- Satin silver and chrome interior accents
-- Keyless entry system
-- Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift ****
-- Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
-- AM/FM/XM/CD audio system with six speakers
-- USB/iPod/Aux jack connectivity
-- Steering wheel audio controls
-- Cruise control
-- Projector beam headlamps with auto light control
-- Integrated Bluetooth including steering wheel controls
-- Temporary spare with steel wheel (T135/90D17)
11-03-2008 | 10:06 AM
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Part 2:
The 2.0T Premium model adds or substitutes:
-- Power driver seat
-- 360-watt AM/FM/XM/CD-changer Infinity premium audio system with 10
speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier,
and diversity antenna
-- Smart Key with push-button start
-- Electrochromic mirror with HomeLink and compass
-- Sunroof
-- Navigation system (mid-year availability)
The factory-tuned 2.0T Track model builds from the 2.0T Premium, adding/substituting:
-- 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered
high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires
(P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
-- Unique Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors,
42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear
rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
-- Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs,
higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear
stabilizer bar, strut brace
-- Torsen-type limited-slip differential
-- Black leather bolster seats with high-friction red cloth insert
-- Aluminum pedals
-- Aero windshield wipers
-- Rear spoiler
-- Xenon HID headlamps
-- Fog lamps
-- Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
-- Navigation system (mid-year availability)
-- Note: Automatic transmission not available with 2.0T Track
Later in the model year, a tuner-focused performance model, R-Spec, will arrive at Hyundai dealerships. Genesis Coupe R-Spec is meant to be the ultimate upgradeable, affordable, turbocharged rear-wheel drive performance platform. R-Spec equipment includes:
-- 2.0-liter low-pressure turbocharged intercooled four-cylinder engine
with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated
210-hp (regular), estimated 220-hp (premium), an estimated 30 mpg EPA
highway rating and an estimated top speed of 137 mph
-- 6-speed manual transmission
-- Electronic Stability Control with ABS, Electronic Brake-Force
Distribution and Brake Assist
-- 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered
high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires
(P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
-- Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm
four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear
rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
-- Track model suspension tuning (higher-rate coil springs,
higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear
stabilizer bar, strut brace)
-- Torsen-type limited-slip differential
-- Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
-- Tire Pressure Monitoring System
-- Front, side, side air curtain air bags
-- Active front head restraints
-- Driver's lumbar support
-- Air conditioning
-- Keyless entry system
-- Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift ****
-- Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
-- AM/FM/XM/CD audio system with six speakers
-- USB/iPod/Aux jack connectivity
-- Projector beam headlamps
-- Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
-- Note: Automatic transmission not available with R-Spec
GENESIS 3.8: 310 HORSEPOWER AND STANDARD LEATHER INTERIOR -- A NEW BENCHMARK FOR PERFORMANCE AND REFINEMENT IN ITS CLASS
Standard equipment includes 2.0T equipment, and adds or substitutes:
-- 3.8L DOHC V6 engine with dual continuously variable valve timing
delivering an estimated 306-hp (regular), 310-hp (premium), and a top
speed of 149 mph
-- M6VR2 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: ZF 6HP19 6-speed
electronic automatic with lockup torque converter and steering
wheel-mounted paddle-shift Shiftronic controls)
-- Black leather seats
-- Fully automatic temperature control
-- Premium door sill plates
-- Chrome front fascia accents
In addition to 3.8 equipment, the 3.8 Grand Touring adds or substitutes:
-- Unique brown leather seat interior environment
-- Power driver seat
-- Heated driver and passenger seat
-- 360-watt AM/FM/XM/CD-changer Infinity premium audio system with 10
speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier,
and diversity antenna
-- Smart Key with push-button start
-- Xenon HID headlamps
-- Electrochromic mirror with HomeLink and compass
-- Heated mirrors with outside turn signal indicators
-- Backup warning system
-- Sunroof
-- Navigation system (mid-year availability)
The factory-tuned 3.8 Track model deletes backup warning system and chrome front fascia accents from the Grand Touring model, and adds or substitutes:
-- Black leather seats
-- 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered
high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires
(P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
-- Unique Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors,
42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear
rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
-- Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs,
higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear
stabilizer bar, strut brace
-- Torsen-type limited-slip differential
-- Aluminum pedals
-- Aero windshield wipers
-- Rear spoiler
-- Black-out front lower fascia
-- Xenon HID headlamps
-- Fog lamps
-- Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
Genesis Coupe will be available in nine exterior colors:
-- Karussell White
-- Bathurst Black
-- Silverstone
-- Nordschleife Gray
-- Acqua Minerale Blue
-- Tsukuba Red
-- Mirabeau Blue
-- Lime Rock Green
-- Interlagos Yellow
Genesis Coupe features four different interior themes:
-- Black environment, premium black cloth seats (2.0T, 2.0T Premium,
R-Spec)
-- Black environment, black leather-bolstered seats with high-friction
red cloth insert (2.0T Track)
-- Black environment, black leather seats (3.8, 3.8 Track)
-- Black environment, saddle brown leather seats (3.8 Grand Touring)
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The 2.0T Premium model adds or substitutes:
-- Power driver seat
-- 360-watt AM/FM/XM/CD-changer Infinity premium audio system with 10
speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier,
and diversity antenna
-- Smart Key with push-button start
-- Electrochromic mirror with HomeLink and compass
-- Sunroof
-- Navigation system (mid-year availability)
The factory-tuned 2.0T Track model builds from the 2.0T Premium, adding/substituting:
-- 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered
high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires
(P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
-- Unique Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors,
42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear
rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
-- Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs,
higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear
stabilizer bar, strut brace
-- Torsen-type limited-slip differential
-- Black leather bolster seats with high-friction red cloth insert
-- Aluminum pedals
-- Aero windshield wipers
-- Rear spoiler
-- Xenon HID headlamps
-- Fog lamps
-- Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
-- Navigation system (mid-year availability)
-- Note: Automatic transmission not available with 2.0T Track
Later in the model year, a tuner-focused performance model, R-Spec, will arrive at Hyundai dealerships. Genesis Coupe R-Spec is meant to be the ultimate upgradeable, affordable, turbocharged rear-wheel drive performance platform. R-Spec equipment includes:
-- 2.0-liter low-pressure turbocharged intercooled four-cylinder engine
with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated
210-hp (regular), estimated 220-hp (premium), an estimated 30 mpg EPA
highway rating and an estimated top speed of 137 mph
-- 6-speed manual transmission
-- Electronic Stability Control with ABS, Electronic Brake-Force
Distribution and Brake Assist
-- 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered
high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires
(P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
-- Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm
four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear
rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
-- Track model suspension tuning (higher-rate coil springs,
higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear
stabilizer bar, strut brace)
-- Torsen-type limited-slip differential
-- Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
-- Tire Pressure Monitoring System
-- Front, side, side air curtain air bags
-- Active front head restraints
-- Driver's lumbar support
-- Air conditioning
-- Keyless entry system
-- Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift ****
-- Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
-- AM/FM/XM/CD audio system with six speakers
-- USB/iPod/Aux jack connectivity
-- Projector beam headlamps
-- Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
-- Note: Automatic transmission not available with R-Spec
GENESIS 3.8: 310 HORSEPOWER AND STANDARD LEATHER INTERIOR -- A NEW BENCHMARK FOR PERFORMANCE AND REFINEMENT IN ITS CLASS
Standard equipment includes 2.0T equipment, and adds or substitutes:
-- 3.8L DOHC V6 engine with dual continuously variable valve timing
delivering an estimated 306-hp (regular), 310-hp (premium), and a top
speed of 149 mph
-- M6VR2 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: ZF 6HP19 6-speed
electronic automatic with lockup torque converter and steering
wheel-mounted paddle-shift Shiftronic controls)
-- Black leather seats
-- Fully automatic temperature control
-- Premium door sill plates
-- Chrome front fascia accents
In addition to 3.8 equipment, the 3.8 Grand Touring adds or substitutes:
-- Unique brown leather seat interior environment
-- Power driver seat
-- Heated driver and passenger seat
-- 360-watt AM/FM/XM/CD-changer Infinity premium audio system with 10
speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier,
and diversity antenna
-- Smart Key with push-button start
-- Xenon HID headlamps
-- Electrochromic mirror with HomeLink and compass
-- Heated mirrors with outside turn signal indicators
-- Backup warning system
-- Sunroof
-- Navigation system (mid-year availability)
The factory-tuned 3.8 Track model deletes backup warning system and chrome front fascia accents from the Grand Touring model, and adds or substitutes:
-- Black leather seats
-- 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered
high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires
(P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
-- Unique Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors,
42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear
rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
-- Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs,
higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear
stabilizer bar, strut brace
-- Torsen-type limited-slip differential
-- Aluminum pedals
-- Aero windshield wipers
-- Rear spoiler
-- Black-out front lower fascia
-- Xenon HID headlamps
-- Fog lamps
-- Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
Genesis Coupe will be available in nine exterior colors:
-- Karussell White
-- Bathurst Black
-- Silverstone
-- Nordschleife Gray
-- Acqua Minerale Blue
-- Tsukuba Red
-- Mirabeau Blue
-- Lime Rock Green
-- Interlagos Yellow
Genesis Coupe features four different interior themes:
-- Black environment, premium black cloth seats (2.0T, 2.0T Premium,
R-Spec)
-- Black environment, black leather-bolstered seats with high-friction
red cloth insert (2.0T Track)
-- Black environment, black leather seats (3.8, 3.8 Track)
-- Black environment, saddle brown leather seats (3.8 Grand Touring)
HYUNDAI MOTOR AMERICA
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11-03-2008 | 10:22 AM
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11-03-2008 | 10:40 AM
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Disclaimer: I haven't read the whole thread yet, so I apologize if I'm rehashing anything here. I skimmed, and I didn't see anyone making these points on my first pass through the thread:
The link says they're comparing to the Camaro LS. I find it interesting to note that the V6 Genesis's price (assuming that the one posted by DvBoard is correct) is several thousand dollars higher than the price of an LS.
Camaro handles a lot more than 310hp. How many parts on the Genesis do you think would break if you gave it 422hp and started doing aggressive dragstrip launches?
GM already has several I-4 turbo vehicles on the market. 
11-03-2008 | 11:12 AM
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11-03-2008 | 11:27 AM
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Lookit, I think the Genesis coupe V6 and the Camaro V6 are very comparable and will compete toe to toe. Yes, the Genesis coupe is not available with a V8. But the Camaro does not have a turbo 4 version which weighs 3300 lbs and gets 30 mpg either.
I guess a question you could ask is, which will sell more, Camaro's two versions of the SS or Genesis's 4 versions of the T-4.
