Now hear this........
04-08-2008 | 05:32 PM
#151
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Scott in Politics NOW thats a Laugh, he would tell everyone to get the hell out & a few other choice words to go along with that.
Sat beside him a few years back during an election & man that man got heated just watching the elections.
04-08-2008 | 08:51 PM
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04-08-2008 | 11:37 PM
#153
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Yes - a very nicely-done ride, modified with mild bolt-ons so that things like the warranty could stay in place. Saw a quote from Matt Murphy that went like this: "Bolt on some slicks and this thing will probably go 12.80, maybe 12.75." Not bad.
Could you get them at dealers other than Berger?
Yes, all 83 of them. What was the MSRP of those?
Yes, all 100-ish of them. Available only at Carl Black Pontiac.
Yuppers.. Lot of bolt-ons there - not much other info though. How many were made?
Ummm....no, haven't, though apparently they are associated with Tom Henry Chevrolet. Not sure what a "racing camaro" has to do with a factory 03/04 Cobra though.
Ah yes, back to GMMG. A very nicely done package, for sure. $86k is a bit of a steep price to pay (base version), and certainly not real comparible to an 03 Cobra, but then again, I'm sure it outperforms it by a wide margin (ok, I'm not sure it does, but that's probably a good bet). There were ~35 of them, correct?
Even if the person you were answering did or did not, none of those cars is comparible to a factory 03 Cobra - given that they are all modified off the assembly line - much like a Steeda or Roush Mustang (though not nearly as available).
FWIW...I don't agree with "tail between your legs" characterization the poster made...though I'm pretty sure his post was far from serious.
Could you get them at dealers other than Berger?
Yes, all 83 of them. What was the MSRP of those?
Yes, all 100-ish of them. Available only at Carl Black Pontiac.
Yuppers.. Lot of bolt-ons there - not much other info though. How many were made?
Ummm....no, haven't, though apparently they are associated with Tom Henry Chevrolet. Not sure what a "racing camaro" has to do with a factory 03/04 Cobra though.
Ah yes, back to GMMG. A very nicely done package, for sure. $86k is a bit of a steep price to pay (base version), and certainly not real comparible to an 03 Cobra, but then again, I'm sure it outperforms it by a wide margin (ok, I'm not sure it does, but that's probably a good bet). There were ~35 of them, correct?
Even if the person you were answering did or did not, none of those cars is comparible to a factory 03 Cobra - given that they are all modified off the assembly line - much like a Steeda or Roush Mustang (though not nearly as available).
FWIW...I don't agree with "tail between your legs" characterization the poster made...though I'm pretty sure his post was far from serious.
welllllllllllllllllllllll...............there were a "few" of them at 600 horsepower...............................
04-09-2008 | 07:58 PM
#155
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U.S. dealers are not permitted to sell to customers who live out of the country, as per their franchise agreement. The way around this is to provide a U.S. address for the dealer to deliver the car to. Not impossible, by any stretch of the imagination!
Best regardSS,
Elie
Best regardSS,
Elie
04-09-2008 | 10:09 PM
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04-10-2008 | 05:24 AM
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On average, an '03-04 Cobra is about a half a second and 3-4 mph faster than an LS1 F-body. Don't kid yourself.
Don't get me wrong, either -- I wouldn't trade my Z28 for any Mustang.
04-11-2008 | 02:18 PM
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Yes - a very nicely-done ride, modified with mild bolt-ons so that things like the warranty could stay in place. Saw a quote from Matt Murphy that went like this: "Bolt on some slicks and this thing will probably go 12.80, maybe 12.75." Not bad.
Could you get them at dealers other than Berger?
Could you get them at dealers other than Berger?
You forgot to mention what most people already knew... Bergers were over priced and under powered. They were a joke to most people on the street. Most of those "special" editions other than the ones that outpriced Z06's (and general still didnt compete with a Z06) were a joke.
And the 03/04 Cobras do not get enough credit within the GM stable of guys. Having worked at Livernois Motorsports for some time I can say thats the wrong way to look at them.
05-02-2008 | 12:41 PM
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05-02-2008 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeRobb:
That's fine, but most stock LS1 F-bodies ran in the low- and mid-13's. Once in a while a hot one rolled out of the factory, and some guys were lucky to get them.
On average, an '03-04 Cobra is about a half a second and 3-4 mph faster than an LS1 F-body. Don't kid yourself.
Don't get me wrong, either -- I wouldn't trade my Z28 for any Mustang.
That's fine, but most stock LS1 F-bodies ran in the low- and mid-13's. Once in a while a hot one rolled out of the factory, and some guys were lucky to get them.
On average, an '03-04 Cobra is about a half a second and 3-4 mph faster than an LS1 F-body. Don't kid yourself.
Don't get me wrong, either -- I wouldn't trade my Z28 for any Mustang.
"SS"'s were quick, no kidding needed.
05-02-2008 | 07:09 PM
#162
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An LS1 SS and an LS1 Z28 run about the same. Evan Smith ran his 12.7 in a Z28.
05-16-2008 | 06:55 PM
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My bone stock Y2K Z28 6 speed ran 12.96 @ 109 MPH on the cheepest B F Goodrich tires that were available on a Z28...it had a 118 MPH speed limiter ... when it was discovered it was promptly edited out of the PCM along with some other unnessary programs....as to mustangs they are like potato chips everybody eats them...
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