Errr...to clarify, I was referring to the GT500, and not TrickStang's 03 Cobra. I didn't even notice the RWHP & ET numbers in your sig dude. No disrespect or offense intended.

 

nah i know, i figured, and i know that you know drag racing and the other numbers that go along with it other than ET.

 

Yeah....no disrespect or offense intended here either.....but how does one make 454rwhp and trap 117mph? Since you're so in the know about the numbers about drag racing, you'll know you probably should be trapping somewhere north of 124mph right? So what are the "mitigating factors" preventing this? Does the car weigh 6000lbs? Were you driving into a tornado? Were you racing up Mount Everest? Was the clutch slipping? Or is it because you're driving a newer 4.6L Mustang that is notorious for turning really slow ET/MPH for the "claimed" power output?
All I know is if I had a car with numbers like that, I (A) would be extremely upset, and (B) wouldn't be advertising it.

 

Thanks for the clarification Scott. I paid just under $40k ($2.5K under sticker price) for my car in 2001 and I was getting a bit concerned by the chatter you refer to that the price of the 5th gen would also be high. Hopefully the LS3 will be available in an SS model.

 

Notorious? Its right where it should be. An LS7 Corvette traps 122-125mph and are roughly at the same power output to the wheels and weigh in at ~600lbs less than my car (my car is 3780 lbs without me in it). Judging by the weight alone without factoring in aero, im right where i should be. That is, unless the LS7 is "notorious for turning really slow ET/MPH for the claimed power output" as well. I mean, im sure i can trap higher if i can floor it in first and can shift hard into second, but i can't on street tires.

as for my ET, unless you ran at the same track on the same day, you have no room to talk. I just posted that time so people have a reference. Its not "advertising". I could have easily lied and put 11.7xx and it would look fine, but it wouldn't be the truth. with the track being 2 hours away, I dont have the luxury of going whenever i feel like it. Its usually a planned trip twice a year or so on a wed street drags night. Most of my run ins with other cars (99.99%) are on the street where its a whole different ball game compared to the track.

 

Traction has very little to do with trap speed (unless it's rediculously bad and you have to "shut down"). ETs can lie about HP, but trap speed doesn't.

HP = ((MPH/234)^3) x WEIGHT
HP = ((118/234)^3) x 4000 (if I guessed your weight too high I apologize)
HP = 513

That's flywheel horsepower.

454rwhp/513fwhp = .885

11.5% HP loss through the drivetrain is a pretty low number, but not totally unfounded in a 6-speed car.

ET = (3rd root of (WEIGHT/HP)) x 5.825
ET = (3rd root of (4000/513)) x 5.825
ET = 11.55

My problem was I underestimated the weight of your car so I'll eat some crow on this one. The words "Cobra Convertible" should've been my first clue.
Do you have wheelhop problems with the IRS?

 

no i don't, atleast, not anymore. I replaced ALL my IRS bushings with delrin and a few solid aluminum one's as well. Also added H&R springs (700#), which didnt help with off the line traction (weight transfer).

 

10 Second Club

Harleydealer---------------1.486 - 10.147 @ 139.63 CFUTXSEHMGKNZ 10/10/07 Gateway International Raceway, St. Louis, Mo.
Jerrytubbs1---------------------- 10.49 @ 130.78 with a 6.71@103.98 1/8th CFUXSEHMGK 12-28-07 Mt Park Dragway
500DRAGPAC--------------1.555 - 10.657 @ 130.53 CFUSDEG 12-1-07 Cecil County Dragway
Greg 1320' * ------------1.625 - 10.906 @ 126.19 CFUXSGKA 05/04/07 - Famoso Raceway
11ride4life ---------------1.595 - 10.948@127.710 cfuxshmgkn Auto Club Famoso Raceway in Bakersfield
MD03SVT-----------------1.623 - 7.084/10.982/129.420 CUXSEGKV 16 sept 07 Napierville Dragway Montreal Canada





11 Second Club


fearsno1 -----------------1.73 - 11.05@129.67 CFTDEKZS 11/07/07 no problem raceway
beefcake ---------------- 1.494 - 11.17 @ 123.05 CFUESKXG 10/14/07 Tri State Dragway, Cincinnati, OH
GT500Shelby--------------1.60 - 11.316 @ 122.59 CFUDSEG St Thomas On. 9/15/07 Alt: 600 ft
Streetpwr281 -------------2.008 - 11.39 @ 131.75mph CFTDSEHMGZ Bradenton Motorsports Park 12/6/07
500DRAGPAC --------------1.74 - 11.40 - 124 CFMD 3-2-08 @ e-town
dgussin1------------------1.629 - 11.410 @ 125.71 CFUXEMSGK 11/18/06 Great Lakes Dragway
MrFarmdog ---------------1.898 - 11.444 @ 124.88 KVZCFTMD 5/19/07 Memphis Motorsports Park
Subzero-------------------1.764 - 11.47 @ 122.22 CFU Maryland International Raceway 9/16/07
Carbd86GT----------------1.830 - 11.733 @ 119.72 CFD 01/16/08 Moroso West Palm Beach, FL
Tahoe GT-----------------1.976 - 11.948 @ 119.79 CFUDSEM 04/04/07 Infineon Raceway
1FSTHRSE-----------------1.965 - 11.985 @ 120.65 CFUDSEGK nyirp 9/21/2007

C=Tune
F=Filter
L=Lower Pulley
U=Upper Pulley
T=Throttle Body
D=Drag Radials
X=Slicks
S=Suspension
E=Catback or X-Pipe
H=Headers
I=Ignition Upgrade
M=MAF
G=Gears
K=Driveshaft
R=Weight Reduction
A=Automatic Transmission
V=Convertible
N=Nitrous
P=Ported Eaton
Z=Aftermarket Blower


Yeah that GT500 is a pig. No way that thing could run 10s without nitrous.

 

You don't need nitrous if you have boost, is that the point?

 

Amazing that this thread started out about the Camaro pricing, then went into a rant about onstar and big brother watching and now is a camaro vs. mustang showdown...love how that happens

 

You do? 'Cause I sure don't.

 

I'll take the blame on that one.

I'll also take my Camaro without OnStar. Thanks.

 

+1

Can we get a real navigation system... please?

 

and a whole lot deadlier as well, a foxbody isn't a car you want to be in when something goes wrong, and speaking of light weight, everything save the 8.8 was light duty, breathe on a 5.0 with more than 500hp and 6,000 rpm and its days are numbered, that is if the T-5 doesn't spit its guts out or the torque boxes aren't hanging loose.

The GT500 is heavy as crap, but the regular GT is no heavier than a 4th gen.

 

I was obviously NOT refering to it going on hiatus again.